27 Sep
2015
27 Sep
'15
5:17 a.m.
On 2015-09-27 03:41, Toby Thain wrote:
On 2015-09-26 5:51 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
I suppose it is the eternal argument between preservation and use. I use
these documents every day. I don't care about the pixels, but the
content. Museums and the like are obviously more interested in the
preservation.
I get the feeling you didn't actually check the text that I OCRed from a
book. That text is an example what I'm looking for.
I will not prevent people who want pixel preservation from continuing to
have that. But for me, it is a problem. The experience in actually using
these documents are pretty poor. And, as have also been noted,
information have been lost in these scans, as they have not preserved
color codings.
Johnny
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On 2015-09-26 23:42, Toby Thain wrote:
I've seen plenty of technical books ruined by this technique, which is
why I beg anyone doing this to not divorce the bitmaps from the OCR'd
result.
I suppose some books might be relatively immune, but technical texts
seem to be quite sensitive to poor interpretation by OCR, logically enough. On 2015-09-26 4:28 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Look at the results in the link I posted. I was more than happy with
that result. On 2015-09-26 12:16, Johnny Billquist wrote:
> On 2015-09-25 22:35, Al Kossow wrote:
>> I have been going back and applying OCR to the ones on bitsavers.
>> Are there some in particular that you have a problem with?
>
> Aha. I wasn't aware of that. I've downloaded copies many years ago
> that
> I've been keeping locally. I'll check out the current versions on
> bitsavers then.
Al, exactly how have they been OCRed? Looking at them, it would appear
that what you see is still the bitmaps of all the pages, but then you
have the basic text also available for selection/searching.
My issue with that is that the documents are huge, and the experience
just scrolling through them is pretty bad.
Imho, though I am sure I am not alone:
Software which "recreates" the typography of a document from OCR does
not produce an acceptable substitute, I've yet to see a book that wasn't
ruined by it.
Just worth mentioning for anyone who might be tempted - For this reason
and others, the bitmaps must NEVER be discarded (Although of course
bitmaps can be archived in a different file if people want to supply OCR
as well.)