Adrian Stoness wrote:
  i'm in need of some paper tapes for my 8a that i
appear to be missing so i
 am unable to do much with my Manichean atm
 anyone up for making copies i don't have a way of hooking my asr33 into my
 laptop or my h10 high speed punch reader 
  but yea for sure i need a bin loader 
You should be able to find tape images online in a few places.  If you
can't find it I can put it on my website for a short while.
  i got several rolls of asr33 tape and paper... also
got one roll of the
 black tape for the h10 i could trade and bunch of h11 software on tape if
 anyone wants to trade?? i don't have the abillity to hook my modern
 computer up to my asr witch is a laptop a 
  also
 would a serial cable from a pdp 11 (currently attached to a m8028) work
 with my 8a if i was to use it with my m8316 rev D connecting to a usb to
 serial if that would work any suggestions? 
I use my laptops (running Linux) with a USB-to-RS232 adapter to connect
to the M8650 (KL8-E) on one PDP-8/E and the M8655 (KL8-JA) on another.
You have to set the baud rate on the KL8s to something like 1200 baud or
higher; apart from file transfers being ridiculously slow otherwise, few
USB converters will  handle the slowest rates like 110.  I usually use
4800 or 9600.  You can get a little program called rsend from Kevin
McQuiggin's website, to send RIM or BIN format files from the laptops to
the PDP-8s: 
http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/pdp8/
The BIN loader in RIM format is there too, as a text file.
Yes, a serial cable from a PDP-11 should be fine -- I use one, but I
also have a few cables with a 34-way IDC connector for the KL8 on one
end and DE9 for the USB converter on the other, which is more convenient
than using a thick BC05C or BC01V and a 25-pin to 9-pin adapter.  You
can get the wiring details from Doug jones'website at
http://www.divms.uiowa.edu/~jones/pdp8/hard8e/
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