On 10/25/2012 10:16 PM, David Riley wrote:
  On Oct 25, 2012, at 10:02 PM, Dave McGuire wrote:
  On 10/25/2012 09:14 PM, Jon Elson wrote:
  Memory is NOT on the Q-bus, it has it's own
dedicated bus on
 the C-D connector rows (how many slots are memory only in the
 CD rows depends on the specific backplane.) 
  Actually the MicroVAX-II uses a PMI interconnect on a daisy-chained
 ribbon cable across the tops of the memory and CPU boards, in addition
 to the C-D interconnect. 
 I was gonna say.  The PMI interconnect for QBUS doesn't supply enough
 address pins for VAX-sized memory, nor is it 32-bit, so MV boards have
 their own ribbon cables as a side channel. 
  It's much worse for the KD32 (MicroVAX-I).  Their memory is actually
on the Qbus, so not only do 32-bit transfers require two data cycles,
but Qbus is ALREADY a multiplexed bus!  SSSSllllooooowwwww.
  I love the KD32 anyway though. :)  It was my first VAX, when I had
worshipped VAXen from afar for many years.  And you know what?  It
worked great.  It was nowhere near as fast as my PDP-11/73, but the
additional functionality of VMS and a 32-bit CPU, and the GUI made life
so much nicer that I really didn't mind the performance hit.  I still
have a MicroVAX-I...I should really get a working system disk for it and
get it running.
               -Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA