On 6 Dec 2008 at 14:33, Kevin Schoedel wrote:
I don't know PIC, but for the AVR equivalent
the host requirements are an
RS-232 port and the ability to run gdb.
Later PICs have on-chip breakpoint debug communication via ICD (a 3-
wire interface)--and there is the ability to run ICE4000.
There is at least one AVR open-source debug package that operates
through the SPI programming interface--using the same tool to program
and debug.
Can you program and debug either or both of these chips without
propietary hardware or software. In other words, is documentation for the
following availalbe (without signing an NDA, etc )
1) How to send/receive words to the chip (what lines to wiggle and how,
what voltages to apply, etc)
2) The binary instruction set
3) THe debugging commands/responses
Could I, if I wanted, make the programmer and write the software from
scratch?
I believe that one can even purchase a USB
"stick" for about $20 for
the TI MSP430 that includes not only the uC, but a USB programming
and debugging interface. It just can't get any easier.
Hmmm.... That's not too useful if you don't have a single machine that
supports USB...
-tony