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And as you may have guessed one of mine too. So much that I have both 1st nad 2nd editons and both of the student manuals. The latter are excellent too, but remembr they are written for a university course, so if you want to repeat the experient,s you need to have some reasonable test gear (bench PSU, 'scope, etc) which many beginners won't have at the start. Gettign bag to 'TAUE', it's one of the few books that start from the real basics like 'what is a resistor' and go on to microprocessors, etc. It's not a book you will 'grow out of'. And as I said, I found it very clearly written. Yes, there are some things in it that I would probably disagree with in the sense that I would design <foo> a different way. But I don't think there's anything there that made me exclaim 'They're suggesting WHAT?'. To be honest, if you read and understnad it, you may well think up other ways to do things. That's good. But you won't be learning stuff you have to unlearn later. My origianl comment could be taken to mean 'I don't know how much electronics you already know, but no matter what level you're at, read TAOE' :-) -tony