19 Jun
1998
19 Jun
'98
12:35 p.m.
In a message dated 98-06-17 22:37:02 EDT, you write:
<< I have a model 80 with built in SCSI that won't survive the next trash
pick up! My neighbor just pitched his model 70. I didn't bother to take
it out of the trash! I have a LOT of PCs that are a lot older than any PS-2
ever made! Altair -1976, IBM 5100 - 1977, HP 9100 - 1968, lots of HP
9815s, HP 9825s and HP 85s from the '70s.
You left out the idiotic micro-channel bus!
Joe >>
well, so you dont like mca. that's fine, but the 8580 didnt come with scsi
built in. the hard drive in it was ESDI. the premium series had built in scsi
on the planar. let me correct myself in saying that my model 77 will certainly
outlast any IBM-PC compatible machine of its era. please note that i am
comparing MCA to ISA here. im not disparaging any other type.
david
Well not to compare dicks , but every reference by PC writers I've seen
descibes MCA as a superior architecture. Had IBM not attempted to flex it's
muscles by inserting a proprietory clause, hence forcing Compaq et all to come
up with IDE we would now likely have a PC system much superior built on the
basis of the MCA advances. And ESDE was much faster than MFM. The SCSI
built into the PS2 models like the 8557 even with the bastard (rs6000) external
connector was even faster as well as the faster serial I/O. IBM also introduced
VGA with the PS2. With the reference disks PS2 was plug and play on the PC
long before Win95 . I love my 8580. Built like a tank. Virtually indestuctable.
It sits under my desk as a companion to this newer machine I use on the net.
A true classic. I'm always on the lookout for cheap adapters for it, and at
some point will add a 486 daughter board. Right now I have DRdos and OS/2
on it , but eventually it will be my Linux mchn.
I also have many older micros. Each I consider unique , with thier own
particular quirks and virtues. Older isn't the point. Its importance in the
overall development or uniqueness is.
I must admit tho that my ST is more fun and my fave. To each his own.
ciao larry
lwalker(a)interlog.com