FSOT Seequa Chameleon

I would agree. I am often something of a cheapskate, sure, but I wouldn't expect (or even ask) somebody to do something for me (like packing up a machine and taking it to the shipping place) for nothing. I would expect to pay for that. Similarly, of course, if the positions were reveresed, I wouldn't expect to have to take the time to pack it up for no reward. I might _offer_ to do it, expeically if it was for a friend, but I wouldn't regard it as somethign that should be expected of me. I also regard the shipping costs (my which I don't just mean the payment to the shipping company, but also the cost of the packing materials and a payment for the sender's time) to be independant of the value of the machine or, indeed, how much I paid for it (those 2 aren't the same either!). Many times I've boght things and paind 5 times as much for the shipping as I paid for the unit. And I am happy about that. -tony