8 Oct
2011
8 Oct
'11
4:13 p.m.
On 08/10/11 6:31 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 8 Oct 2011 at 17:39, Toby Thain wrote:
There's a difference between being able to find some obscure adapter,
and making SCSI integral in motherboards, which Apple did with the Mac
Plus ~ 1987 and successive products.
The Mac Plus _did_ have an Apple-designed interface: The ADB port.
However, as usual, this was thoroughly documented on the hardware and
software side, and many third party peripherals were built. Ditto
Appletalk serial - fully documented and specified, many third party
peripherals.
This was years in advance of the PC world
noticing SCSI, of
course...
Sarcasm aside, this brings up a good question...
I've got a 1984 Ampex Megastore board for the PC that uses SCSI
(I'll have to check the ROM exactly, to see if they call it SASI or
SCSI, but it uses the command set). It connected with an external
box with both tape and disk drives.
I suspect it wasn't the first for the PC. Does anyone know what was?
Apple wasn't even part of the USB working group for a long time.
USB was on amny PC motherboards even before connectors for it became
available. My earliest USB device is an Anchor Chips EZ-Link S/N
0011--I'd have to open it up to figure out the year. I've got
other USB devices that are labeled for use with a specific
motherboard. Plug them into a different one, and they're invisible.
Ditto, Apple rolled it out across the whole product line - New World
Macs - obsoleting the floppy and serial ports at around the same time.
--T
Early USB was an unmitigated nightmare. After spending a bunch of
money on technical books and hardware and then witnessing how awful
the implementations were, I lost interest quickly.
--Chuck