James Rice wrote:
About 18 months ago, I was given a Vax 11/780,
complete [...]
in other words the whole works. Since I only collect micros
and some Unix workstations, I posted it's availability [...].
After posting to the list I only got one response and at the time
I was living in an apartment and didn't have room to store the
system. Finally it was dumpstered. The same fate fell to the two
PDP11's that were removed from service a couple on months later.
Ahhhhhhhhhrggggggghhhhhhhh!
See, those are the things that I am very anxious to avoid by repeatedly
bugging all the VAX or VMS related fora about my want. The problem is,
18 months ago I would not have room for it either. To tell you the truth,
2 years ago, probably about the same time, I have *seen* our VAX 11/something
standing in the hallway waiting to be picked up by either a scrapper or
a vendor (for trade in at certainly a ridiculously low price.) I walked
by and I dismissed the thought of even wondering if I couldn't take it.
How stupid I was, don't beat me, I have beaten myself many times for this.
regards,
-Gunther
James
"Carlini, Antonio" wrote:
>
> >more to the point :-). I had very little feedback. One from one
>
> There may not be many 11/78x machines in hobbyist hands.
> There may not be too many corporations subscribed to
> this list :-)
>
> It took me many years (admittedly in the UK) before
> I came across a uPDP-11. I've never seen a Robin (hint,hint...).
> You need to be patient. In my experience, the docs and
> hardware will come along at different times - never
> turn down an incomplete package (I'm preaching to
> the converted here since you have the innards
> already !).
>
> How many VAX-11/78x machines were produced?
> These days you expect that thousands of any machine would
> be sold (except maybe the specialised supercomputers).
> I believe that for the VAX 9000 series, only 400-500 made
> it out of the door. The same order of magnitude may well
> be true for the VAX-11/78x systems.
>
> How long have people been collecting such
> large machines? I don't have the room -
> I could not realistically find room for a VAX 4000
> right now, never mind anything bigger!
>
>
> >9 months ago :-). However, I have indication that my 11/785 boards
> >won't work on the 11/780 backplane. So, I'm still desperately
> >looking for a 11/785. I would be a lot more patient if I saw those
>
> I don't know anything about the 11/780 => 11/785
> upgrade but I would be surprised if the backplane
> had to be replaced.
>
> >in the first place. Where are they?
>
> They may all be in dealers wharehouses and defence
> sites and nuclear power stations. I did hear of three
> being decommissioned in the UK a few years ago
> but that's about it.
>
> >get some leads to follow. The underlying assumption being that
> >there is one 11/785 recycled as scrapmetal every month that I don't
> >find it.
>
> I suspect the underlying assumption is just that
> there are not that many of the beasts still around.
> I guess by the time I have the room for one of
> these, there won't be any left!
>
> Antonio
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