24 Nov
2016
24 Nov
'16
9:38 a.m.
As someone that has several Gmail and Verizon accounts my call is:
AOL is often either put in junk or trash for all all. Often that
includes Yahoo
as well. I suspect its the general drift to better authentication to
slow the junkmail
and spoofed emails. This is why people use Gmail, it filters spam and
trash like no other
and by experience its reliable as any I've used.
To be very blunt, AOL, Yahoo, Hotmail, are the top three considered junk
at best and
spam at worst on my systems. Valid email from any of those is an
exception rather
than the rule.
FYI: my pet peve is everything is received twice!
Allison
On 11/24/2016 12:20 PM, Eric Christopherson wrote:
On Nov 23, 2016 11:05 PM, "John H.
Reinhardt" <johnhreinhardt at yahoo.com>
wrote:
I get disabled regularly. My address is at Yahoo. Currently I'm sitting
at 2.0 out of 5.0 for my bounce score.
What's a bounce score, and how do you know what yours is and what the limit
is? Does classiccmp specify 5.0, or Yahoo, or what?
On 11/23/2016 8:00 PM, Eric Christopherson wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016, Michael Brutman wrote:
>> Gmail routinely marks these emails as spam. And Gmail clearly says: "
It
>> has a from address in aol.com but has
failed aol.com's required tests
for
authentication."
Digging deeper into the header one finds:
"Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of
cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org designates 199.188.211.196 as permitted
sender) client-ip=199.188.211.196;
Authentication-Results: mx.google.com;
dkim=neutral (body hash did not verify) header.i=(a)mx.aol.com;
spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of
cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org designates 199.188.211.196 as permitted
sender) smtp.mailfrom=cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org;
dmarc=fail (p=REJECT dis=NONE) header.from=aol.com"
I'm no expert on dmarc, but that looks to be the source of the pain.
Do we have any evidence that his messages are affecting the rest of us,
though?
The previous disabled messages came at:
11/20/2016
11/06/2016
10/25/2016
10/18/2016
10/13/2016
10/05/2016
09/26/2016
09/10/2016
08/23/2016
08/11/2016
08/06/2016
08/01/2016
07/19/2016
07/10/2016
07/01/2016
A fairly uneven distribution. None repeating sooner than 5 days and
sometimes
taking up to 18 days before hitting the 5.0 bounce limit.
I was thinking of changing my email to another
provider even though I've
had this one for at least 12 years. But if it's
because of a configuration
problem, then other providers may react the same way so will it do any good?
> John H. Reinhardt