On 4 February 2014 12:46, Liam Proven <lproven at gmail.com> wrote:
On 4 February 2014 17:17, Christopher Blackmon
<ckblackm at yahoo.com> wrote:
It's hard not to top quote when your email
provider immediately does it for you. (like yahoo).
I don't really use my Y! account. I keep getting told that Gmail
top-quotes. Hint: it's not true. It doesn't.
Sure, it leaves the cursor on the top. But moving it is no harder than
putting your food on a plate rather than eating off the kitchen
counter-top by lowering your face to it, and my feeling about someone
who did *that* is roughly the same as that for my people who top-post.
Bottom posting while very useful, does make almost every screen reader
go crazy; while being an utter bitch for those using screen readers.
I'm lucky, I don't need to use a screen reader on most machines. But,
to put how bottom posting sounds in the context of a vision impaired
person:
"On four February two thousand fourteen twelve COLON forty-six, Liam
Proven LESS THAN {I can't reproduce the whatever the hell my screen
reader said} at {guh-mail} PERIOD com GREATER THAN wrote COLON LESS
THAN On four February two thousand fourteen seventeen COLON seventeen,
Christopher Blackmon LESS THAN {screen reader barfs} at yahoo PERIOD
com GREATER THAN wrote COLON LESS THAN LESS THAN It's not hard to top
quote when your {because lack of hypen, it sounds like "eh mail" all
one word} provider immediately does it for you. BRACKET like yahoo
BRACKET. LESS THAN LESS THAN LESS THAN I don't really use my Y
EXCLAMATION MARK account. I keep getting told that {guh-mail} LESS
THAN top HYPEN quotes. Hint COLON it's not true. It doesn't. LESS THAN
LESS THAN Sure, it leaves the curor on the top. But moving it is no
harder than LESS THAN putting your food on a plate rather than eating
off the kitchen LESS THAN counter HYPEN top by lowering your face to
it, and my feeling about someone LESS THAN who did ASTERISK that
ASTERISK is roughly the same as that for my people who top HYPEN post.
LESS THAN LESS THAN HYPEN HYPEN LESS THAN Liam Proven ASTERISK Profile
COLON H-T-T-P COLON SLASH SLASH {dafuq it just say?} PERIOD {"live
journal" as one word, with live pronounced like "liver"} PERIOD com
SLASH profile LESS THAN {"eh mail} COLON {...} AT {"six"} PERIOD
{"co"} PERIOD U-K ASTERISK {"Guh-mail"} SLASH G-PLUS SLASH Twitter
SLASH {"Flick-R"} SLASH {Facebook amazingly pronounced correctly...}
COLON {...} LESS THAN M-S-N COLON {...} AT {"ho tmail", no I don't
know why it did that either} PERIOD com ASTEROSL {What...?} SLASH aim
SLASH yahoo SLASH {Again... what?} COLON {again, all I say is
"Dafuq?"} LESS THAN {"tell" but clipped short) COLON PLUS forty-four
twenty HYPEN eight thousand six hundred eighty-five HYPEN zero four
hundred ninty-eight ASTERISK cell COLON PLUS forty-four seven thousand
nine hundred thirty-nine HYPEN zero eighty-seven thousand eight
hundred eighty-four."
Now, to properly get the effect of that *THING* above this, read it
about twice as fast as Ben "Yahtzee" Crowshaw talks in his Zero
Punctuation reviews (i.e. to the point the words start blurring
together), because that's what most people use for their screen
readers, lest they be stuck listening to a massive splurge of crap
like that for a half hour. Also, read it with horribly bad inflection,
and an overwhelming amount of monotony.
My vision impaired friends who actually need to use screen readers all
the time *HATE* bottom posting because for them top-posting because --
in the words of one friend -- "It's makes the damn thing shut the fuck
up." (Since the screen reader goes from text-reading mode into
read-what-was-just-typed mode if you start typing something.)
If one uses a "proper" GUI'fied E-mail client things get a bit
better... now you just can't tell where one message starts and another
message ends if there's "middle posting" going on. Unless of course,
you happen to talk with people who use plaintext e-mail, because then
you get the full fun of "LESS THAN LESS THAN LESS THAN..." noise along
with horrible outgoing HTML based e-mail.
So, don't lump all top-posters together. Some do it because "I'm not
dealing with this (fucking) noise anymore." (A quote from another
friend.)
Cheers,
Christian
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Christian M. Gauger-Cosgrove
STCKON08DS0
Contact information available upon request.