Richard wrote:
Okay, I have been watching this auction for quite
sometime, I am thinking about bidding. What is it worth? I don't want to over bid,
but I've never seen an in box Lisa in good shape like that, and one with a working
widget (come to think of it, I've never seen one with a working internal drive), and
its said to have been owned by Apple.
The item number is:
270351871785
Whats it worth bidding? I would love to bid, and its stayed so cheap, I just want to
meet the reserve, but if other bid (and there is also said to be 326 watchers), I
don't want to get cought up in the moment and bid my life away, I just want to know
whats its worth before I bid, you guys seem like experts in this area.
Hard to say. But, it's got a lot of the standard software, because it's
unopened, and even has some software that's not commonly "out there"
(Desktop Calendar) it will be worth more.
It bothers me that the guy selling it doesn't list out all the
software. Yeah, it's got Lisa 7/7, most Lisa auctions don't even
include software, let alone unopened, but what else? There's two brown
Apple boxes, I'd guess one of them is The Lisa 2 Owner's Guide. What's
the other one? An older copy of 7/7 or something else? (the white ones
are 3.0 or 3.1)
It does bother me that he doesn't specifically say which items are
opened and which aren't. That's worth knowing.
It's got the 10M Widget drive, thus it's worth more, it's got the
original mouse (as opposed to a Mac Plus mouse), normal yellowing, but
it has something most ebay Lisa's don't have - the packaging box. I'd
guess it'll go over $1K, maybe even $2K easily - especially seeing a bit
of interest from overseas buyers. It's not a Lisa 1, so it's not
exactly "super rare", but it does have a few bits of stuff to drive the
price up pretty high.
It doesn't have the dual parallel card, which, IMHO, I'd want. Those
are useful for attaching external Profile HD's incase the internal
Widget kicks the bucket.
Being owned by apple, I wouldn't worry too much about in terms of adding
value.
Since it's a 2/10, it means it's got the 2/10 I/O board with a single
IWM chip, and best of all, no NiCad batteries to leak. It might have
issues due to the age, such as failing capacitors (not yet obviously)
and the floppy drives can go bad (usually the grease solidifies.)
What to bid? Depends, what can you afford and how badly do you want
it. If you just want a Lisa for the lowest cost, consider another auction.
As usual, it's worth what the highest bidder's willing to pay for it.
I'd personally not bother with this one, it's got a lot of "rare" items
which will drive the price up. But then again, that's because I would
want a lower price, and already have two Lisa's, so I wouldn't be in the
market for another. Personally, having the box it came with isn't that
important, or unopened software, but apparently there are a lot of
people for whom that is a big important deal, and they're apparently
willing to pay for shipping across the ocean. :-)
So you can expect this one to go quite high. Maybe not $4K, but at
least $1K-$2K.