that I
didn't know what pin was what on the system, the problem was
 what pin was what on the connectors I wanted to buy. 
 Sure.  The point of my (and
others) post was that if you get _any_
 adapter you can then use the RS232 tester to figure otu which is TxD
 and which is RxD, and if necessary make up an adapter using
 easy-to-get DB25 conenctors to lin kit to your terminal.  That might
 not be as neat as having the right adapter, but it will get the thing
 working. 
 
 ...usually.
 I've seen two things which could break this.
 (1) Some devices require some of the modem control signals in order to
 operate at all.  Hooking up just TxD, RxD, and GND won't be enough in
 such cases. 
 
Hence my comment (in anotehr messagee) to use the LED adapter to see what
flow control lines the device drives. If it drives something, it's
possible it requires the counterpart to be asserted before it will do
anything.
Another trick I've used is to use the diode test feature of a DMM (or an
analogue multimeter) to check every pin o nthe DB25 to ground both ways
round. You will pick up the input protection diodes of the receivr chips
and the output stage of the drivers. Thus tyou can tell which pins go
somewhere, and which are not connected at all
 (2) I've even seen one device which powers down its transmitter unless
 it sees at least one input pin being driven.  This is extremely 
I assuem it also powers down the drivers for any flow control outputs.
That is plain evil. What device does this?
  annoying, because when you go in with a meter (or
lights) to figure out
 which pins are being driven you find that none of them are.  It also
 means that you can't test it by just shorting TxD to RxD even if the
 software is configured to ignore modem control signals.  Mercifully,
 such devices seem to be rare; I've seen only one, out of all the serial
 ports I've dealt with, as far as I know. 
A third thing you cna't test with the light adapter on its own is an
RS232 drvice that's powered from the RS232 signals, like some (most?,
certainly not all) serial mice.
I think it's fair to say that no solution works in _all_ cases. That
doesn't mean the LED adapter is not handy to have around. It works in
enough cases that it's a useful thing to have in the toolkit.
-tony