On Aug 18, 2016 12:08 AM, "Brent Hilpert" <hilpert at cs.ubc.ca> wrote:
 On 2016-Aug-17, at 8:26 PM, william degnan wrote:
 >>> No doubt you can get it to work, and it can be a useful ability in
some
  >>> situations.
 >>> But monitors and loaders tended to be written with different
objectives.
  >>>
 >>> Monitors targetted interactive use, not receipt of back-to-back
 > characters,
 >>> which would be why you have to add per-char delays.
 >>> The monitor is likely dropping a character or starting a read in the
 > middle
 >>> of one and getting garbage because it went away for too long while
 > looking
 >>> up the command.
 >>> It only has the stop bit period, or even less time, to do processing
 > after
 >>> receipt of a character.
 >>>
 >>> Loaders expect back-to-back characters and are written or optimised
 >>> accordingly, not that one can't still run into problems, which is why
 > the
 >>> checksums can be good.
 >
 > It would be a lot easier if everyone picked top or bottom posting when 
they
   reply but I
digress.... 
 Yes, we've had that debate a few times.
 AIR, it was decided that bottom-posting was the 'list practice'.
 > My suggestion to use the "monitor method" is a stop-gap just to get to
 the
  > point of loading in something useful when no
other means was workinhg. 
I
   agree any
process that has no checksum will be unreliable.  Whatever.. .
 Let's say for now you have at least the monitor  method until something
 better comes along. 
 But as far as MIKBUG/SWTBUG goes, you also always have the "L" command
 with S-record method.
  If the data in your TSC BASIC "M" text were
converted to S-record format 
- a trivial programming exercise -
  it would be easier (no delays required) (and more
reliable) to load into 
the SWTP.
  They're both ASCII text input, just different
formats.
 I'm not clear why you resorted to the M-command method, was the TSC BASIC 
data
not originally
  in S-records? - that would be the standard format for
loading such 
software into an SWTP.
 
The regular S1 tape exists in a few places, yes use L to load tape.  This
is the best practice.
Purely as an experiment I made a monitor script so I could run at a slow
speed so I could watch the screen as commands were entered.  I can't
remember if it was because the load (L) was not working or if there was a
cpu card issue.
I thought as a first step, given at the time in the flow of the thread the
OP was having issues, my monitor script would be worth trying.
Bill