obscure forgoten Machean of Europe?

Well, don't forget that i) a lot of people (like me) are interested in things they worked with 'back in the day', and for many people, that is very likely to be DEC and HP machines, since they were very common, ii) the conversation is partially driven by what's available now, and again, because they were so common BITD, there are more of them now, and finally iii) the list has a lot of US-based members, and they wouldn't have run across (either back then, or now) machines from the somewhat obscure European manufacturers. I don't think anyone looks down on the more obscure machines, in fact I personally (and many others, I suspect) are very happy to see people paying attention to them, and my respects to the people who are working to save them. Noel