29 Nov
2007
29 Nov
'07
3:10 p.m.
Richard wrote...
> Looks like noone else wanted to pay that much
either. I don't know
> where they came up with a price like $1700 for 4 11/04s ($425 ea?),
To which Pat replied...
An 11/04 is somewhat more desirable of a machine than
the 11/03 is (it's
UNIBUS instead of QBUS), but you still lack the MMU, and only have a
calculator-keypad frontpanel instead of a full lights and toggles
frontpane, and it's relatively slow. So, it's not generally all that
desirable to people, compared to something like an 11/83, or even an
11/10, or 11/34.
Slow != UnDesireable, or HP 2100's wouldn't sell so much
higher than HP
21MX/E's ;)
11/04's seem a bit rare to me. And for "curb appeal" no different than an
11/34.
Of course, who knows if they even had any board in
them still.
Looks like a full boardset to me... did you click on the camera icon for
the
picture show pics? Not to mention, they look to be in awfully nice
condition.
I'd guess that if they were actually complete, and
mostly working (but
without any interesting I/O boards), $150-$250 ea wouldn't be too far
out of line. I/O boards could dramatically raise the value of the
system, though... eg, if there were a SCSI controller or something in
the systems.
Tis all subjective personal preference. I don't have an 11/04, and
don't
particularly want one. Is that because it's an 04? No, it's because of
space, time, money, already owning other 11's, not being a
dedicated -11-only collector, etc. Given that the above systems looked
complete and in very good shape, I think the asking price of $425 each
wasn't totally out of line (albeit yes, a bit high to *me*).
More to the point, I don't think the auction is a fair indicator of the
worth of an 11/04, because he bundled 4 of them at a high (total) price.
Perhaps few people want to buy all 4 and spend $1700, but perhaps there is
someone out there that would jump at buying one at 1/4th the price.
Jay