ADDS Mentor 2000 - Big success!

Dave Dunfield wrote: try doing a "POVF" and reporting what is there. Also type "WHAT" pick free space is called overflow, because when you create a database file in pick, you create a base block sized to have a number of hash buckets, and once these fill up the system adds in "overflow" to contain more data. this makes for a double edged sword. If you guess and size the file right, you end up with the first frame being read in and having your data. if you goof, the ssytem will search down the chains of frames till it finds it. as time goes on the files get worse and worse. restoreing If you have a DC600, you may have 45mb or 60mb of data / tape. if you get the what info, we can figure out if you have written enough tapes to equal your disk size. another command to use is "WHERE" which will tell you about all the users logged on. Unless the adds is set up for modem control, you can just move your terminal from port to port and log in. I can give you some basic program stuff to try once you get a user account created to play on. Use CREATE-ACCOUNT if there is no indication of a menu with such utilities in it. Pick had no consistent menus to assist in these administrative tasks, but vendors such as Adds added them, and enhanced them. LISTU will show who is supposed to be logged on, whereas where is like a unix PS command. as another warning, there is a 3 or 4 stroke kill the system permanently at the ! sign, depending on your bad luck. when you get the ! you are getting a frame number before the period, and an offset in the frame after it. So 6.123 shows that the program pointer was in frame 6 (TERMIO) and at offset 123. If you happen to type a . then a valid hex number, it may store that directly into frame 6 at 123, yeilding a bad user experence. That is why I want you to get to a sys1 or sys0 Dave account asap. That little feature is disabled. I'm glad you broke into it, it would have been difficult but not impossible (danger of above) to break into the system otherwise. The system really is not that insecure, as there was and is the issue of how secure a software system can be without the encryption that is integrated into laptops today, if you have physical access to the machine. And the only place the exploit you pulled can happen is on the console, so if you secured the console and the connection and the machine, you were okay. and it was not feasible to be more secure as in encyrpting everything back then. when you get a Dave account ttry the following Hello world program CREATE-FILE MYBP ED MYBP HELLO (prompt is a .) I<cr> (insert) 001 PRINT "HELLO WORLD" 002 END 003 <cr> (numbers supplied by editor) .FI<cr> (file it) **** [nnn] PROGRAM MYBP COMPILED (os some sort of rendition of the above) HELLO WORLD if the above works, you are cooking. of course the > is the TCL prompt. I used MYBP because frequently one shared a BP (basic program) file with several accounts, and used subroutines I am glad all of you seem to be okay with this, I was offering to shut up if not. Sounds like we need to get a pick machine up somewhere for all to play on :-) Jim