defining 'vintage'

I haven't, except to people who, while perhaps not _sharing_ the mindset, understand it enough that they don't really need to have it explained. But I haven't put much thought into it, because (a) I consider turning down (or otherwise dealing with) a dozen boring peecees to be a small price to pay to get hold of that one oddball something-or-other from $WHENEVER, and (b) even the peecees hold _some_ value for me. Given a steady stream of boring x86 boxen, which I seem to have, I can just use them as throwaway computron sources - use them for the applications where I don't care about the machine enough that using a vintage machine is worth doing, and, when one breaks, throw it out (whatever that means) and put in another one. Furthermore, they often include repurposeable extractable bits such as disks and PCI cards, many of which are useful in *interesting* machines. Of course, my tradeoffs are not everyone's; my approach is not necessarily suitable for you, or anyone else for that matter. /~\ The ASCII Mouse \ / Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML mouse at rodents-montreal.org / \ Email! 7D C8 61 52 5D E7 2D 39 4E F1 31 3E E8 B3 27 4B