for sale etiquette?

I am in favour of it, for what that may be worth - at least assuming the item is on-topic, or at least topic-appropriate; "I have a 1992 Ford Mustang to sell" would, I think, be a bit much. :-) That would be my own guess too. :-) I don't, but I suspect I am exceptional in this respect. That would be of value only to those people that _do_ do VCM, and for them, I'd say it would be more appropriate for the VCM to generate individual mail to VCM members who have asked for it. I don't do VCM (the VCM's terms of service are unacceptable to me for reasons starting with but by no means limited to requiring me to agree to foreign legal jurisdiction), and as a result my reactions to VCM postings are about the same as to eBay postings: "gee, might be nice, too bad the seller has chosen such an unacceptable venue". I haven't kicked up a fuss about the various posts that basically just point to a VCM or eBay listing for two reasons: (1) the annoyance is small compared to the positive feeling I have towards my co-lovers-of-old-computers, small enough that I've been content to ignore it, and (2) I feel sure I am in a small enough minority in finding them smacking of "nyaah nyaah, look what you can't have" that I would be told to shut up and stop making a fuss rather than anyone else's behaviour changing, so there's no point in irritating people. I see absolutely nothing wrong with posting a for-sale here when the item is being sold directly, especially when it's, by intent, being sold by or to collectors rather than random computer dealers or (shudder) scrappers. /~\ The ASCII der Mouse \ / Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML mouse(a)rodents.montreal.qc.ca / \ Email! 7D C8 61 52 5D E7 2D 39 4E F1 31 3E E8 B3 27 4B