9 Jun
2013
9 Jun
'13
1:08 p.m.
On Wed, Jun 05, 2013 at 05:31:47PM -0000, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Wed, 5 Jun 2013, Mouse wrote:
Specifically, immediate-term cost. Cheap crap carries higher costs,
but enough of those costs are out beyond the end-of-quarter balance
sheet that they get swept under the carpet.
My PII was made around the time as my Netra t1 105. Both are still
100% functional. I don't like any PeeCee hardware that is Pentium
III or later. It's just absolutely unrealiable garbage!
Not inherently. It helps not to buy the cheapest parts from the bargain
bin. Yes, the ISA is horrible, but that's x86 for you and quite a
different topic.
At the end
of the day, in most thing, cost tends to win out.
Yes. *grumble* >I'd love to run Sun x86 workstations, or
Macs, as my PCs, but I
>can't afford to. I have PCs to earn me money, not as a hobby, so I
>run the absolute cheapest kit I can
My SS20s, my X4100, my Power Macintoshes, my Alphas, _were_ "the
absolute cheapest kit". They all came my way for $0.
So did my peecees. But...
My approach is a bit different, and is summed up
by the old line,
"I'm not rich enough to use cheap tools."
....I've run a lot of Suns, VAXen, etc. And I've run a lot of peecees.
(More of the former than the latter, because people throw out more of
them as they scroll off their idea of the low end.) Even after
correcting for machine-hours run, the peecees exhibit much higher
failure rates. Maybe one or two of my dozen or two Suns have failed.
I'm not sure I have even _one_ working peecee made contemporarily with
those Suns.
I just /do
not/ trust it. If I don't check it for a month I want my systems to
not throw any crazy errors. Only my Pre-PIII systems I trust to not
give errors in that time period (this is only talking about PeeCee
hardware).
Hell, my PII ran as a router for >150 days or so without a single
error or issue. (or power failure!). I don't expect modern PeeCee
hardware to be able to do that.
You are joking, right? I don't want to get into any silly uptime wars,
but my home server (AMD Phenom II quad core) has currently 444 days
uptime and I've got another Core i7 based machine with a current uptime
of 1143 days. No issues, they just _work_. Which is what I expect from
them.
Buy decent hardware, install a reasonably operating environment on it (I
prefer Debian Linux, but hey - whatever works for anybody else) and the
only factors limiting uptime usually are
- power failure/instability
- reboots for kernel upgrades
- hardware changes
Kind regards,
Alex.
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"Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and
looks like work." -- Thomas A. Edison