MARC (was Re: Thoughts on manual database design?)

On 9/27/2015 12:30 AM, Eric Christopherson wrote: I'm not surprised, as it was never available as a product. I originally inquired about it after an article about it in the BDS C User's Group newsletter, and talked with Ed Ziemba, and he agreed to send me a copy to play with / test. I tested a few versions before Ed Ziemba's passing, and did some work on programs like icheck/ncheck/dcheck. It was an operating system, not a layer on top of CP/M, although it did use the CP/M BIOS calling conventions for the I/O layer. And, until you got your own BIOS integrated into your copy of MARC, it could boot by starting up a CP/M program on top of your existing BIOS, which was termed a "parasitic boot". I had a version of "ed" running on it, but the code was "tainted" as I had access to a version done in PL/M that itself had ties to the original Unix version, and had access to the Unix version code myself. I also had a version of "make" than ran on it, that was not tainted. (There is one article out there that supposes that MARC was doomed to failure because the 8080 machine address was too small. That is an erroneous speculation from my perspective - given that programs like BDS C, "ed" and "make" could run on it is pretty strong evidence to the contrary). Here is an article about the accident that pretty well sums things up: https://books.google.com/books?id=pD0EAAAAMBAJ&pg=PT14&lpg=PT14&… (Sorry about the fragmented URL). As the above InfoWorld article mentions, Lauren Weinstein did work on MARC after Ed's passing, but owing to legal difficulties (and perhaps technical ones, too, I suppose), it never made it to market. I corresponded with Lauren back in the 80's as well as more recently when I contemplated providing a copy to Al Kossow and the CHM. Lauren advised me against doing so because of the aforementioned legal difficulties. Lauren and Leor Zolman would know much more about all of this than I did/do, as I never saw the source code. I do not believe that the copy I had had the CP/M emulation component that allowed CP/M programs to run on it that is mentioned in the article above - I "just" had the Unix style system calls. JRJ