Atari/Commodore hybrid, was Re: General religious wars (was Re: Editor religious wars)

Where is he saying talent was driven away from the company? If anything, he took a lot of the talent with him. On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 1:29 PM, geoffrey oltmans <oltmansg at bellsouth.net> wrote: > These are good points. I think that a lot of Commodore's successes were despite Tramiels' involvement, rather than because of it. The accounts of the design of the SID and VIC-II in particular seem to point to this, and as you say, he ultimately drove that talent away from the company. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Dan Roganti <ragooman at comcast.net> > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > Sent: Wed, January 27, 2010 11:59:52 AM > Subject: Re: Atari/Commodore hybrid, was Re: General religious wars (was Re: Editor religious wars) > > > > ----- Martin Goldberg wrote: >>> Dan Roganti wrote: >>> >>> Too bad Atari lost out on this, I think they deserved to build this, but >>> you know how shifty Tramiel was :) >>> >>> =Dan >>> -- >>> http://www.vintagecomputer.net/ragooman/ >>> >> >> >> You must be going by RJ Mical's misinformation. Jack Tramiel had >> nothing to do with the Amiga, that was Warner Atari Inc. as Curt >> mentioned. > > I'm not referring to any timeline. I was only saying how Tramiel has a reputation ignoring engineering advice. He has a lot of cost cutting tactics as a businessman - some good, but also some bad = such as slashing valuable personal in the engineering staff. Although I feel Atari lost out, I would shudder to think what Tramiel might have done afterwards to Jay Miner's design just to make it cheaper, that's his MO ( I know this is hindsight). He may be famous for the early Commodore success, but Commodore was still successful without him--thanks to engineers. If he was so remarkable, how is it that the Atari ST was just a mediocre design ( I know this just another religious war - but open your eyes for a minute). Thankfully, we were privileged to see Jay Miner's achievement as Commodore succeeded without a hatchet job on his design. > > =Dan > http://www.vintagecomputer.net/ragooman/ >