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> In the case of Turing closure, the notion is much broader.
Turing closure
> refers
> to the ability of a system to perform any and all computations
that can be
> expressed. Now, there are problems with this
notion, since
Godel has shown
> that some expressible computations in fact
can not be
computed. Still, the
> general notion is: all that can be computed
is computable upon
a TM, and a
TM
is capable of computing all computations.
Care to explain this in a way which is not either self-contradictory
('There are functions that can't be computed, but a Turing machine can
computer all functions) or tautological ('A Turing machine can compute
all functions that can be computed on a Turing machine')?
-tony
Hi
I believe that Turing proved that if it can be calculated
by a computer, it can be computed on a Turning machine. It
is the reverse that may not be true since the computer may
not be flexable enough. Turing didn't make comments as to
how large a Turing machine was to do this, only that it could.
Dwight
No, Turing showed that if it can be computed, it is computable
on a TM. There is no machine existing, no machine which may
exist, that can compute a computation which is not also
computable on a TM.
William R. Buckley