On 04/08/10 18:54, Tony Duell wrote:
Als I know the feeling. I've missed out on 3
HP1000s and an Acorn A680
due to similar occurances. Oh well, life goes on...
A680... that's the RISC iX box, isn't it??
Alas I only have one Ace, and I am keeping it :-).
Adrian Graham (witchy) sent me some hi-res scans of the PCB ages ago.
I've been meaning to make a PCB from them, but I need to look into ways
to get a good B/W image of the track layout. Thresholding the image
doesn't quite work...
Well, if you like fitting 1k resisotrs... In case you
don;t know, the Ace
has a vile 'myltiplexer' circuit consisting of a totem pole TTL output
(say from a counter) warkened by having a 1k resistor in series
contending with a 3-state output (say on an address buffer). That's how
it allows both the video counter chain and the CPU to access video RAM.
Ugh, nasty.
Err, of course. What else would you do with a bare Ace
PCB?
Some people (not me) would frame it and put it on the wall......
Yes, but not
the sort of machine I was thinking of (a "microcomputer
trainer" type thing)
I actually wonder what the real difference is...
A ROM monitor instead of BASIC, and an edge-connector with all the bus
lines on it :)
Although the AIM65 bucks that trend; AIUI it has a built in ROM BASIC
*and* the monitor, and the Multitech Micro-Professor certainly had a
BASIC ROM available.
No, I disagree. I have never been a great lover of
minimal parts count
designs. For me, the more hardware. the merrier :-)
There's a breaking point though. When I'm programming PLDs, I generally
don't give a hoot how big the logic equation set becomes (as long as it
fits into the PLD).
If I'm wiring up hardware, the "must fit on a Roth Elektronik
Eurocard-size padboard" rule applies. I try to avoid straddling projects
across multiple pad-boards; my 6502 card can boot standalone, but it's
not much use without the UART or some form of hex keyboard and display
(TIL311 to the rescue!).
[BBC micro]
ATN is certainly there... I would have to grab the
(excellent) user guide
to look for all the others. But for what I do, the built-in assembler is
more useufl, actually...
Another point I missed :)
Indeed... And schematics are trivial to get. It's
a very nice machine to
work on...
"Google is your friend" :)
Ah, the anitsocial capacitor problem. I've never
seen it in a Beeb (but
then the Beeb I use most is the ACW whiohc has a totaly different PSU),
I had it in my Master 128 (it filled the room with smoke) and in a
Solartron 7150Plus 6-digit bench DMM. The filter module in the 7150
actually caught fire (!) and I called the company and asked if they knew
why it might do that, and if they had any distributors who'd sell 1-offs
(RS wanted ?49 and in any case were downright rude last time I tried to
place an order with them).
Their response: "We'll send you another filter module."
The 7150+ is still in service -- I've got a full service manual, but
$DEITY help me if the Hitachi 68B03 mask-ROM micro on the analog board
jacks it. Mask ROM and it's soldered to the board. Ewwww. If it wasn't
soldered down I'd stick it in a breadboard and dump its contents to
disc... (it has a 'test mode' which maps an external EPROM into the
reset vector, and moves the internal ROM higher up in the memory map)
the monitor went bang and emitted magic smoke. My
instnat thought was a
problem in the horizontal output stage. I powered down at once and
removed the casing (non-trivial on that monitor...) and was relieved to
find the only fault was that one of the filter capacitors had exploded
(metalised foil hanging out of the side). Of course I replaced the lot...
One of the few occasions when shotgun replacement is justified.
The other one is when you've got a machine on the bench which is showing
symptoms of Capacitor Plague. In that case I'd sketch out part locations
(and locations/values of nearby parts), remove the old parts, and give
the surrounding area a good soak in flux remover (or IPA) and a decent
scrub. Maybe a trip in the dishwasher if it was particularly mucky...
Then the new parts go in, and any track breaks are repaired.
At least the hot-air gun makes it (reasonably) easy to remove the SMDs.
A pre-heater would make it even easier, but unfortunately the budget
won't stretch that far at the moment...
--
Phil.
classiccmp at philpem.me.uk
http://www.philpem.me.uk/