On 2017-03-28 6:51 PM, TeoZ via cctalk wrote:
How do you feel about reading dead presidents personal
letters? At some
point personal information ends up being historic information.
I am not a lawyer, but it almost seems like something that actual law
should cover.
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http://codes.findlaw.com/ny/general-business-law/gbs-sect-399-h.html
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http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/intellectual-property
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http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/publication-private-facts
If there is money (or more money) to be made associating a Computer to a
company or specific somewhat famous people then sellers will play this
angle for all it is worth. Anything done on company machines is not
private to begin with. What exactly are we going to learn other then
people asking for vacation days, so and so is a shitty boss, the company
probably used some pirated software, and early artwork or code for games
might have been pretty shitty.
"Nothing to hide" arguments don't justify making this public wholesale
(or depriving anyone of privacy).
I get computers all the time with hard drive intact full of company data
(some defunct, others not) and peoples personal files, music, videos,
and photos. I don't bother looking at any of it, only backing up hard to
find drivers or software keys then wiping the drive. If I did come
across a user that was famous (or infamous) I would probably preserve it
(remove the drive and store it somewhere) while going about my hobby
interest with the machine.
Perhaps what you should do, is contact them, ask if they want the data,
and if they say no - or you can't reach them - wipe it. But it seems
that even doing this much may expose you to liability, so ask your own
lawyer.
Everything we do today is digital, sooner or later there will be no
written records at all. In the distant future historians will want to
know what we were doing in 2017 and they will have nothing to go by
since all the websites will be long gone and all our files will have
been erased or saved using backup methods nobody can make heads or tales
of let alone find the programs that can read the files and computers
that the programs can run on. So I think a small random fraction of
users lives should be around to learn from. If for some reason we nuke
How about making this an opt-in scheme, not "my stuff fell into am
unscrupulous stranger's hands and now it's all over the internet".
ourselves into oblivion (or more likely just keep
destroying the
environment until we can no long function as a society) then maybe
people down the road should look over out private files, posts, emails,
blogs, etc. to see how people could allow it to happen. You won't be
able to see government files because everything will be stamped Top
Your governments have been destroying their internal communications, or
otherwise concealing them, for decades.
--Toby
Secret (or more likely deleted) including your own
data they illegally
obtained.
-----Original Message----- From: JP Hindin via cctalk
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 5:36 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: PreOwned machine privacy - Was: Acclaim Entertainment Indy
(with data, emails, etc) on eBay
This guy is on Reddit and has been posting lots of stuff from these
machines and I can't help but feel a bit suspect about all of this. While
they're old machines, the information is presumably no longer of any
commercial value and the company no longer exists... I can't help but feel
that this is an invasion of someone's privacy. The commercial content is
one thing - although whether it's truly "abandoned" runs down into all of
those arguments we see flare up in cctalk about once every two years, so
let's not go there again...
But... eMails? I dunno. I've been pulling a lot of data off a Cray J90 and
I've had a lot of people ask me to release it to the public and I just
can't bring myself to do so. I'm _pretty sure_ that it belonged to NASA,
which might mean some/all of the information may even be Public Domain -
but this has people's usernames, and lord knows what kind of effort they
put into the work. (And that's ignoring how not-qualified I am to make the
PD assertion)
It just feels _wrong_ to me, personally.
While I'm not specifically crapping on the guy selling this Indy - I'm
kind of curious how others feel about this sort of thing as it's something
I've been confronted with personally lately.
Cheers;
- JP
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