no, I didn't misunderstand. perhaps it was the last one Einar had. But it was what he
created Email on.
Check the Wiki for him.
The internet didn't become a really public thing until around 1994.
Sure it existed in various forms, but when you talk about the "Internet"
(Capital "I"), the public wasn't aware of it or using it until late 1994.
To give you some idea, the ISP I worked with in Sept 1994 had an ARIN user registration
number 79.
Yes, the 79th person to register with ARIN. That's pretty damn EARLY!
So enough with your stupid jokes and mockery, this isn't a scam or slight, it's
the real thing, speaking from a public perspective anyhow.
Hey I was there in the mid to late 80's using NA-Net, etc as well, but that WASN'T
the internet.
And hey, I was sending "email" via university systems back in the mid to late
70's too, but that's not what we call "email" today.
there wasn't TCP then, at least where I was (It was Dec-net and PAX).
BTW I helped WRITE TCP-mail, the predecessor to pine/elm, so I think I know a bit about
what I'm talking about.
And yes, I know there was other stuff too, in the 80s, networking like Envoy, but that
too, wasn't the Internet.
I think there are two aspects, the research network, NA-Net, Arpanet and so forth, and
what we, the public now refer to as the Internet.
Sure the worlds FIRST website was built 6 August 1991 but that's not when the public
was aware of it.
So you can see, the 1990 release of the SLC is very much in-line with this time-line.
I was there, I lived through this, I helped the universities build their system for
students so they could reserve research materials from the Canadian National Archives.
The "properly" public internet didn't really come into full view, I would
say until sometime around 1996, perhaps to some, 1995, but really.
BTW I also built the FIRST, Canadian National backbone network link in March of 1994, and
yes, really the first, in Canada.
So been there, done that, got the t-shirt.
That's why "first" was in quotes. I wasn't trying to skewer dates or
make some big claim, but I still think it's an important piece of history.
So go ahead, continue making your immature little jokes about sneakers, if someone is
serious on the list, drop me a note.
Dan.
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:38:49 -0700
From: sethm at
loomcom.com
To: cctalk at
classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: "first" computer on the internet
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 8:26 PM, Dan Gahlinger <dgahling at hotmail.com> wrote:
I thought I had posted this, perhaps not.
Anyhow,
I have what's purported to be the "First" computer on the internet,
the one that joined the pieces together and I guess you could say "made" the
internet,
or conversely, the "last" node, as it were (depending how you count).
It's also the system where E-Mail was first created.
It's a Sun SLC workstation, owned by Einar Steffard.
I don't understand how this could possibly have been first, second,
third, fourth, or even 100,000th computer on the Internet? The
SPARCstation SLC was released in 1990, long after the ARPAnet had gone
away and TCP/IP had become well established as the protocol of the
Internet. Email had been around for almost 15 years by that time, as
well. Could you have misunderstood what it was used for?
-Seth
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