Still pineing for my own VMS machine

When I first read your message, I saw "real" VMS and assumed you were talking about a REAL system, not am emulator. But maybe you're not aware of the emulators, and they might be good enough for you, if you're just itching to play with that $ prompt for a while. I started with an emulator, but quickly realized that I wanted a REAL system. There are 3 emulators that I know of that work OK. * SIMH is the one I like the best. It still has a few weird bugs, but nothing that will stop it from running VMS though, and maybe some of the problems I've experienced under WIN32 don't occur under Linux. Frequent updates from the author (although none in a month or so). No network support, although you can TELNET to a simulated terminal driver. * TS10 - I don't know much about this one, although I've heard good things. Mainly for Linux, and since I don't currently have a linux system running, I haven't even tried to compile it in WIN32. Network support is currently being added, and I understand it semi-works so far. * PicoVAX - A mini version of a commercial product. Sessions are time limited to 3 hours, and you can't telnet to it. Currently only emulates a MicroVAX II, whereas the other emulators emulate more recent models. If you decide to go with a REAL system, if your experience of VMS is rather have a VAX than ALPHA system. VMS on ALPHA is basically the same, but there are some differences. I'm not as familiar with the MicroVAX 4000's as I am with the 3100's. I think the 4000-xx (two digit numbers) are VAX and the 4000-xxx (3 digits) are ALPHA? Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Also, I think the 4000's are QBUS, with some of them having SCSI also? Are there any SCSI-only 4000 models? If you just want to play for a while, "run authorize" just one more time as you put it, then an emulator might give you what you want. But if you really want to get back into the VAX, you might find in the long-run that a real piece of hardware will serve you better. - Bob -----Original Message----- From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Ron Hudson Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:09 AM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Still pineing for my own VMS machine Well what's the cheapest way to get into somthing running real VMS? Even for a single user (can I connect it to my home network and telnet to it from linux) (wishing for authorize just one more time....) BTW I have PC-DCL (HMM gotta look up the source on that to see if it can be a linux shell.....) Ron.