Thank you very much, Pete. A *very* complete lesson :-)
I approach to say that I have a few items more in the pile to probe, being
the more interesting a couple of continuity QBUS boards and one BA11
expansion box. I leave its installation and use for a future message.
As an additional comment to explain my list of messages, I must say that the
BA11 and the boards object of my messages came to me almost two years ago
in my basement. It was for cause of my RX33 message that
I did a review in
the basement and located these two boxes.
I shall publish in the list my progress when the system is up and running
with all these items.
Regards
Sergio
2009/6/22 Pete Turnbull <pete at dunnington.plus.com>
On 21/06/2009 20:08, SPC wrote:
As far as I can imagine it appears that they were used in one PDP QBUS
system in the order, from up to down in the order
of the previous list,
with
one ribbon cable from the RQDX3 to the 7513 J1 (?) connector, and another
one from the J2 (?) to the RQDX distribution board. Exists another
connector
(J3 ?) in the 7513 that appears to point to one external connector that I
saw in one BA23.
That would make sense; the M7513 is an RQDXE extender, used to allow you to
connect an external set of drives as well as the internal ones handled by
the distribution board. Unless you want some drives in the host enclosure
and one or more in an external one, you don't need it.
Finally, the RQDX comes with MFM cables but too with one standard floppy
PC
cable. I have some doubts with this last matter:
* Is used this crossed floppy cable in DEC systems too (as in PeeCees) or
it's used other kind of cables ?
No. PCs are the only things that use the crossed cable. Other systems
would normally not have a cross, but would have different jumper settings on
the floppy drives for the drive selects.
* I have a couple of RX33. Must I use TWO cables (one per floppy unit) ?
No, you can use a simple bus arrangement with two connectors in parallel --
but set the DS jumpers on the two floppies so one is DS1 and the other is
DS2 (that's assuming you count DS1...DS4. If the links are labelled
DS0...DS3 then set the first to DS0 and the second to DS1). Don't use a PC
cable with a twist; it doesn't do the right thing.
You need quite a late version of firmware in the RQDX3 to support RX33s,
though.
* Same question with the MFM disks
If you're using the M9058 distribution board, the easiest way to do it is
to use one 34-way cable and one 20-way cable for each fixed disk (ie for two
fixed disks, two pairs of cables).
* What is the orientation of the RQDX ? I imagine it with the connectors
> side turn down because turning it up would be a problem with the previous
> board in the BA11-SB
Do you mean the RQDX-E? Just don't use it unless you have to. The M9058
distribution board is meant for a BA123, and has its own slot at the bottom
of the backplane where it's not in the way. It only takes power from the
backplane, no signals, so it can go way below anything else without having
to worry about grant continuity or bus termination.
Look at the PDF files at
http://www.dunnington.u-net.com/public/RQDX/
and specifically at M9058_layout.pdf because that will show you what needs
connected.
Regard an RX50 as being equivalent to a pair of RX33s, at least as far as
the interface connections are concerned, so it (or the 2 x RS33) connect to
J11, and your first fixed disk as RD1 so it connects to J1 and J5. Set the
drive select on any fixed disk in this setup to DS3.
J12 connects to the RQDX3 via 50-way ribbon cable, and J9 connects to the
front panel switches. You probably don't have those, but if you look at the
diagram in RQDXn_LEDs_switches.pdf you'll see that it would be easy to
construct a substitute, and if need be, just use a couple of pullup
resistors to ensure the drive is ready and write enabled.
If you want to see more, fetch the "microPDP-11 Maintenance Manual" from
the net, and look at the chapter on storage devices.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York