12 Feb
1998
12 Feb
'98
7:02 a.m.
Roger Merchberger wrote:
;-) Clearing the snow from my glasses, I saw John
Foust typed:
surely
the sake
AutoDesk requires you to trade the original disks from the previous
version at the dealer to order the upgrade.
John Higginbotham <higginbo(a)netpath.net>
wrote:
>If I then came across a higher version for that
>product and it was cheaper if you already owned a previous version
(say it
>takes the older version disk to upgrade to
newer, then I'd expect to
pay
>the cheaper price, because it is upgrading the
program found on my
original
set of
install disks, that I rightfully own.
You might hope to pay the lower upgrade price, but Autodesk will tell you that you have someone else's copy,
and without a letter of
transfer,
they won't sell you an upgrade. Or if the
copy had already been
upgraded,
they'll transfer you to their anti-piracy
department.
Yes, but to own a version upgrade versus an actual standalone product,
you
*must* keep the original version. If you own V9, and upgrade to
V10/11/12/13/14 on that basis, you cannot toss your V9 media -- or you
are
chucking the license that allows you to own just the upgrade and not
the
real thing.
Methinks Autodesk's anti-piracy department would set up a conference
call
between them, you and the folks who threw away the older media,
because the
company doing the pitching is wrong as well, for without proof of the
original, they have essentially pirated the upgrade version.
>I look at it this way: If someone throws away
the disks, they are
giving up
their
license to use the product.
Not if they upgraded. It may seem ridiculous of me to pretend for of argument that these disks came from a dumpster,
but that's in fact
the
way a lot of us collectors get our stuff. :-)
You're both right, in a way.
John H.: Chuck the disks, give up license. Yup.
John F.: The upgrade disks require a license to previous software --
you
now essentially have two linked licenses - you cannot legally give up
1/2
of that license, so: "Don't throw the original media away." - to do so
could be asking for trouble.
So here's a question: Let's say you find dox & stuff for Lotus V.2 in
the
dumpster, but with only the original disk 1 of the 3-disk set (IIRC).
Do
you in fact have the license, or not. Is the license bound to *all* of
the
media?
If this is the case, then that version of Autocad cannot be split. To
xfer
the license, you need to xfer *all* the media involved - to throw away
half
would be wrong, the way it seems to me.
Just my $0.00000000002 (that's what it's worth, anyway... ;-)
Roger "Merch" Merchberger
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