Tony Duell wrote:
I'm
looking at doing something similar (but simpler) with my 7yr old. It
struck me that the end product should actually 'do' something,
having a finished product that is a computer is great but being able to get
it to control something - eg r/c car, robots, bedroom lights, model railway
might well fire a child's imagination even more.
That's a darn good idea!. Every kid these days knows what a computer can
do :-). But having one control an actual physical device is something new
to them. And as was discussed last week, it;'s a lot easier to do
interfacing hacks on a classic machine than on a modern machine with PCI
and USB and not a lot else :-)
I don;t know where you are located, but if you're in the UK, you might
want to look at the Maplin toy robot kits. They do a little 2-motor 6
wheel chassis kit (no electronics) for < \pounds 10.00 which looks ideal
for computer control experieemnts. I am currently contemplating using
some classic HP interface hardware (HP59306 relay box HP59313 ADC, etc)
to control such things, but that's certainly not what you want to do.
-tony
This discussion reminds me of a little thing I wired up when my daughter
was small. I don't recall all the details, but I probably have a hand
drawn logic diagram somewhere. I just took a single 2102, a 555 timer
or two, a couple of counter chips, etc. and made a thing that would
display M x N blobs on a scope. I intentionally mis-adjusted the focus
and astigmatism on the scope so that each blob pretty much touched its
neighbors. Each blob represented a bit in the 2102 and the 555's
generated the V and H deflection drive. The sweep and the address
counters were obviously in sync somehow. I gave her some paper forms
with M x N squares where she could draw a little picture by filling in
some of the squares. I had some crude way of entering the bits one at a
time. And no, we did not use all of the bits in the 2102 - more like
128 or so as I recall. When done entering, one could switch to run mode
and admire the results on the scope. It was a pretty fun
father/daughter project. No software required! Though she grew up to
be a teacher, I'll bet she still remembers it.
Though I think I wire-wrapped mine, it ran slowly enough I think it
would work fine on a solderless breadboard, and that might be a real
advantage for something like this. i.e. Dad could gently back away and
allow the victim (errrrr I mean child) to easily
modify/enhance/experiment if they were so inclined.
Later,
Charlie C.