Huge IBM 1800 find (and need some help)

Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2015 17:20:53 -0400 Subject: Re: Huge IBM 1800 find (and need some help) From: wdonzelli at gmail.com To: cctech at classiccmp.org That has to be just about the biggest 1800 system ever made. -- Will On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Mike Stein <mhs.stein at gmail.com> wrote: > Wow indeed! Now THAT's a project! > > m > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave G4UGM" <dave.g4ugm at gmail.com> > To: "'General Discussion: On-Topic Posts'" <cctech at classiccmp.org> > Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 5:12 PM > > Subject: RE: Huge IBM 1800 find (and need some help) > > >> Wow..... >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: cctech [mailto:cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of >>> Johannes Thelen >>> Sent: 27 March 2015 21:03 >>> To: General Discussion: On-Topic Posts >>> Subject: RE: Huge IBM 1800 find (and need some help) >>> >>> >>> I just visited see 1800 (900 km of driving! I'm little bit exhausted...) >> >> and we >>> >>> had big time with plant manager when we went throught the stash! I think >>> I >>> have infected him of old computer disease, he had very excited this >> >> project >>> >>> too, haha! :) Original plan was to pickup some small items today, but it >> >> was >>> >>> impossible, because of all my hurry at work :/ But now I have good, >>> interesting and of course, bad news ... Lets take the bad news first: it >> >> seems >>> >>> that machine have donate some parts as can be seen at the pics. That >>> company had another 1800, maybe some parts have been picked out for it... >>> Also there is "small" dust problem, it is every freaking place! >>> Then interesting news: it have been used to since 1986, longer as I >> >> excepted. >>> >>> Second, and more interesting fact, that same warehouse had used as >>> mushroom farm ;) Good news: There is documents every where! Just quick >>> look, and I found tens of IBMs original documents! And also it is still >> >> fully >>> >>> enough to fix it up. Some spare parts are laying around and almost all >> >> stuff >>> >>> what is know used back then, is still there (except Tektronix displays, >> >> GRRR!). >>> >>> **** >>> And that moving... Somebody recommend sleigh and thats really only >>> option, >>> it is absolute enourmous work to but it small pieces. I have to make >> >> sleigh of >>> >>> RHS beams, plywood and polyamidi slides. This whole set is lowered on >> >> stairs >>> >>> by winch. That's the plan and it should (and would) work! >>> More coming later! Now I have to sleep! >>> Oh, the pictures: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B_DR111cK6W- >>> SFJpMm16MVgyVFk&usp=sharing >>> >>> Ps. And thank you for all for good advices! :D Thaaaaanks! >>> >>> - Johannes ThelenFinland >>> Before microcomputers blog (Finnish) >>> http://ennenmikrotietokoneita.blogspot.fi/ >>> >>> >>> >>> > Subject: Re: Huge IBM 1800 find (and need > some help) >>> > From: paulkoning at comcast.net >>> > Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2015 13:53:04 -0400 >>> > To: cctalk at classiccmp.org >>> > CC: publicmail at jwsss.com >>> > >>> > >>> > > On Mar 21, 2015, at 11:23 PM, Jon Elson > > <elson at pico-systems.com> >>> wrote: >>> > > >>> > > On 03/21/2015 05:15 PM, Jim Stephens wrote: >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> On 3/21/2015 12:50 PM, Jon Elson wrote: >>> > >>> OK, a quick search shows the 2311 was > >>> indeed hydraulic! >>> > >> The University of Missouri, Rolla 9 drive > >> 2314 was hydraulic, >>> > >> and on >> >> night >>> >>> a drive's actuator unloaded into the pack area, and took it out, but the >>> damage from that major failure was contained w/o the pack or actuators >>> exiting the enclosure. however the debris took out all the packs and >> >> drives. >>> >>> > >> >>> > > This one wasn't when I was there. I think > > we also had a oil >>> > > spraying >> >> event >>> >>> there, but it was relatively contained. We had one at Washington >> >> University, >>> >>> also that might have contaminated several spindles before they got all >>> the >>> packs unloaded. >>> > > I think this one is fairly quickly detected > > if the computer room >>> > > is >> >> occupied, >>> >>> it causes a strong oily smell that is quickly spread by the A/C system. >>> > >>> > We had a 1620/II in college with a pair of > 1311s, which are similar >>> > to >> >> the >>> >>> 2311. The system drive sprung a leak. The field service tech replaced >> >> the >>> >>> failed seals, and I obtained some reagent grade isopropyl alcohol from >>> the >>> chemistry department. He used that with Kimwipes to clean the oil from >>> pack and heads. The result was complete success. Packs and heads in >> >> those >>> >>> days had tolerances far larger; I wouldn't want to try that with anything >> >> much >>> >>> newer. But if you have a 2311 with contaminated heads or packs, you >>> might >>> give that technique a try. >>> > >>> > paul >>> > >>> >> >> >