On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 at 19:05, Grant Taylor via cctalk
 <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
  On 10/23/2018 10:47 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk
wrote:
  This may be an unfortunate mismatch of English
idioms. 
 Fair.
  "Out there", to me, means
"current, available/on sale/in use now, in
 active use and/or maintenance". 
 I'm fairly sure that Solaris and AIX both
continue to ship C.D.E.  ;-) 
 Solaris is EOL and is no longer in development.
However, Solaris 11
 switched to GNOME 2, nearly a decade ago.
 AFAIK neither Oracle nor IBM make workstations any more, only headless
 servers, so it's rather academic.
  Hence why I prefer to be excruciatingly clear.
 I generally try, at least with my professional hat on.
 
You can still get a graphics adapter with lower end P9 AIX systems but
not on the high end machines maybe because there is no place to plug in
a keyboard.
Paul.