10 Dec
2010
10 Dec
'10
1:45 p.m.
Not with this Lisa 2/10 Geoff. The I/O board is different from the two
earlier Lisa's I've got, and it's the I/O board that has the fault. And
I've only got one widget drive.
Terry
----- Original Message -----
From: "geoffrey oltmans" <oltmansg at bellsouth.net>
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Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: apple Lisa2. Any advice on non-working floppy drives?
It'd probably go a lot faster if you swapped some
boards from one to the
other.
;)
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From: terry stewart <terry at webweavers.co.nz>
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Sent: Fri, December 10, 2010 2:26:33 PM
Subject: Re: apple Lisa2. Any advice on non-working floppy drives?
Interesting. It's amazing the gadgets enthuisasts have developed.
I'll wait until I get some software and get at least one Lisa booting
before
worrying about the keyboard. I think this Lisa restoration is going to be
one for the long haul.
Terry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Duell" <ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk>
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Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 7:53 AM
Subject: Re: apple Lisa2. Any advice on non-working floppy drives?
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Tony Duell <ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk>
wrote=
:
I wonder if those metalised mylar emergency 'blankets' would work.
The origianl plastic was much thicker and more rigid that either of these
alternatives, but that might not matter. But I wonder if something closer
to the original could be found to keep the thing nearer the original.
I think this thing uses the well-known Keytonics cpacitive
keyboard.The
foam pads under the keys can fail with age (resultign in non-working
keys), also the metalising on the back of the lower plasic disk can
vanish (!).
Patrick Sch=E4fer has suggested a different material for repair of Lisa
keyboards, the metal-foil-like wrapping from a crisps/chips/fries pack. I have not tried this yet but I am
collecting the packaging.
Patrick also describes a handy Lisa keyboard tester.
Hmmm... I notice he won';t release the firmware source. I can fully
understnad why the sources for commercial products are often not
available, but my suspicious mind suggests that one reason why they
wouldn't be avaialble for soemthign like this is that the author is
aashamed of the code. In which case I am not sure I'd trust it.
-tony