bogus auction for Altair system on eBay

And what about some of us sellers and buyers that have built up good relationships with multiple repeat sales? Hmmm????? Your blanket statement covers much more than you think. The best way to detect a shill is to...well, you can't. That is the problem. Too many perfectly valid and honest auction players can look like shills. The best bet is to know they will always be there, but not in the numbers that people think, and just be prepared to fall victim at some point. After all, you were willing to spend that money, right? Other than the feeling of being ripped off, there really is no loss to you. Move on with life, then think about the times that you won something for far less than what was expected.. I have never been hassled for shilling (I have been asked, but have outright refused, even from friends), but I know that Ebay will warn once, then BANG - suspension. Getting back on is a major pain, and can take weeks, or even months. It is real, and it happens. William 99.6% Donzelli aw288 at osfn.org