29 Jan
2013
29 Jan
'13
4:03 p.m.
On Jan 29, 2013, at 10:22 AM, microcode at zoho.com wrote:
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 10:08:11AM -0500, Christian
Gauger-Cosgrove wrote:
Are we really not calling PDP-10s mainframes just because they're
not water-cooled? Some of the smaller ones (KS10 in particular)
were certainly more of the mini variety, but the KL10s certainly
meet the "lose a scope in it" rule of thumb, especially some of
the larger setups.
Additionally, I believe DEC marketed most of their 36-bit systems
as mainframes as well as a number of the larger VAXen (especially
the VAX9000). I'll be glad to debate the merit of calling a large
VAX a "mainframe", though the 9000s certainly fit the subjective
size parameters, but that's certainly the segment their marketing
department was aiming at.
- Dave
In the former case the TOAD-1 is most definitely
"big iron" as it is a
descendant of the KL-10, which is most assuredly a mainframe.
DEC never made a mainframe and nobody from DEC ever asserted they did AFAIK.
It's odd to see posts claiming DEC made mainframes or that VAX is big iron
from a group where calling a DE9 a DB9 produces a 500-thread post ;-)
Stop the hysterical revisionism. DEC made minis. Minis are not big iron.