List charter mods & headcount... ;-)

Unix *IS* user-friendly, it's just picky about who it calls a friend ;) I'm thinking of several ways to avoid this becoming a windows support area. I'm not hip on windows being a valid topic here, or commodity clone PC's for a lot of reasons. Key of which is that in my opinion, that system is responsible for the decline of the true art of computer science (but albeit the rise of giant computer industry). The systems, and in general a lot of the software after that are so cookie-cutter as to not have any soul. While faster, cheaper, etc... there are no really new ideas in them. Just reapplication of age old concepts. It's the period when these age old concepts were discovered, put forth, and formed that we really seek to preserve. One can make a good case for the initial home PC market - c64, apple, exidy, atari, trs80, etc... as being historically significant. One simply can't make that argument for later generic clone PC's. In my mind, most of us here wish to preserve the ART of computer science, not necessarily machines of a specific age - thus I think an age limit isn't really a great way to do this. Also, I think IBM 5150's are on topic for example. It's a nebulous thing to pin down. Easy to understand but hard to express. I don't think any of us started collecting with the first idea being "I'm going to collect systems that are 10 years old". We aimed for specific beloved machines.... PDP8's, 11's, HP1K's, DG nova/eclipse, etc. Most of us then branched out into other systems in that period, because there were other interesting systems in that timeframe. I'll have to give this some thought... Jay