19 Oct
2000
19 Oct
'00
6:39 a.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: <Mzthompson(a)aol.com>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Cc: <ncherry(a)home.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: Vax Station 3100
wrote:
you
need
surgery
Sorry; you caught me confusing the DECstation 3100 with the VAXstation 3100
in that respect :)
--Sean Caron (root(a)diablonet.net) | http://www.diablonet.net
Yesterday, in response to Neil Cherry's post on
his DEC machine I wrote:
mouse.
Just behind the memory is the video frame buffer.
It is either
a VFB02 mono, or a VFB02 color (p/n 54-19469-01).
Correction: the mono video frame buffer is a VFB01
Later Neil Cherry <ncherry(a)home.net> wrote:
> According to message I found during a web search, I may have purchased a
> lemon. It states that the machine won't boot without a keyboard and
Well I
don't have any. I'll have to hunt them down and then load *BSD.
To which Mike Ford <mikeford(a)socal.rr.com> wrote:
No idea on mice, but I still have some LK201 and
LK401 DEC keyboards.
Hey Neil, given your 'lemon', some water & sugar: Lemonade!
I have also got some spare LK201's. Also buried deep somewhere is
a couple unused hockey puck mice still in the original box, and they
lastest haul included a bag of hockey pucks as well.
Also adding his two bits was "Sean Caron" <sean(a)techcare.com> and he
You may have read about the insidious mouse port
dependency on these
machines :)
These systems must have either a mouse or a
"mouse port terminator"
installed on them to boot NetBSD (and others, perhaps) from the graphics
console.
I think
> more information on them can be found on the NetBSD/pmax Web site, or could
console
also probably look it up by typing something like
"DECstation 3100 mouse
terminator" into your favorite search engine.
Here's the info:
: How can I run a DECstation without the display?
: (From the Ultrix FAQ found at ftp.digital.com)
: To turn a DECstation 2100/3100 into a DECsystem 2100/3100 you need to:
: 1. Remove the Graphics board, keyboard and mouse.
: 2. Put a mouse loopback connector in the hole for the mouse plug.
: The loopback connector part number is: 12-25628-01
: To make your own:
: Short Transmit data to Receive Data, pins 2->4 as shown in the diagram.
: (view looking at the plug).
: 5 6 7
: o o o
: 4 o === o 1
: o o
: 3 2
> I'm not sure if its a problem if you boot the system off a serial > (which, incidentially, you can do; just hook up a
terminal to the port
with
> the printer icon next to it and flip the little
DIP switch S3 on the
back
of the system
- then you don't even need a mouse, keyboard, or monitor).
Sean, here I will have to say: Huh? There is no DIP switch on the back of
a DECstation 3100's. Is this something on the back of a VAXstation 3100?
If so, I thought we decided this was a DECstation 3100.
> Unfortunately, unless you have a MMJ terminal (VT3/400 series) you'll
> to either buy or build a converter to break out
MMJ to something more
> useful. The only problem is that (out here, at least), MMJ plugs are
just
> about impossible to find and the converters
(MMJ->DB25) cost $25 from
DEC.
Ouch!
Ouch is right, never knew DEC wanted that much. Maybe I need to take
my shoe box full of 'em to my safe deposit box. ;-))
And then Neil Cherry wrote:
> 2 ways around that problem, minor surgery (exacto blade) or major > (remove MMJ and solder in appropriate 6 pin RJ
outlet). I think I'll
> start with the exacto first. Actually there is a 3rd method I'll try
first
and that is
the exacto the RJ11 plug so it no longer has the tab on it.
Neil, if you want to use a PC as a terminal and need one, I have a couple
spare MMJ cables. Or in case you want to 'roll your own' I will post a
'fact file' on MMJ. I have posted it here in the past, but probably not
a bad idea to post again.
Mike