That set me scurrying for my Mueller. Both my 80s are 111
models. Mueller informs me that the 80s all weigh 45.3 lbs and the
60 weighs 47 lbs. He also intimates that the 161 has SCSI HDDs.
My first box, which I had to lug 2 blocks to get a cab, still makes
me think more like 100 lbs. Since then I've been able to scratch
parts of my back I never could before.
If you're sure the case is actually plastic and more so that of the 2
model 60s there was also a plastic cased one, this is something
the MCA Mafia MUST learn about.
Possibly a european model produced to make North-Americans be
perceived as weak and effete. (Hee-Hee, titter-titter, "can't lift it".)
BTW you aren't a wrestler or weight-lifter by any chance are you ?
It's an 8580-161..... I've never laid eyes on
a 90 in person. The 60
I bought for parts had the plastic case as well. Maybe they made two
versions of the cases?
Chad Fernandez
Michigan, USA
Lawrence Walker wrote:
Better check that model number again. The 386
8580's (and the
less expensive 286 8560 look-a-like) are heavy-guage steel full-
tower boxes with pull-out metal floor stand and a steel fold-up
handle which must have been put on for weight-lifting exercise,
since no normal strength person would carry it more than 20 yards
without resting. Most 80s also came with 2 large ESDI HDs which must
weigh between 10-15lbs. each and a 1/2 ht. 14.4 FDD.
I have 2 of them and a 60 among my IBM collection.
Hmm. In walking around clunking my IBMs, only my 8557 and
8590 came up non-metal. Even the PCjr, PS/1s and Ambra's were
metal cased. I suspect you have an 8590 desktop which is a nice MCA
machine with a SCSI bus.
ciao larry
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