cctalk Digest, Vol 71, Issue 1

On Aug 1, 2020, at 1:00 PM, cctalk-request at classiccmp.org wrote: ?Send cctalk mailing list submissions to cctalk at classiccmp.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctalk or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to cctalk-request at classiccmp.org You can reach the person managing the list at cctalk-owner at classiccmp.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of cctalk digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: OpenVMS Community License (Rico Pajarola) 2. Tallgrass PC hardfile driver/utility software (r.stricklin) 3. SUN VME - seller in Sweden. (Mattis Lind) 4. Re: SUN VME - Have em in US.... (Chris Zach) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 16:04:29 -0700 From: Rico Pajarola <rp at servium.ch> To: Bill Gunshannon <bill.gunshannon at hotmail.com>, "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: OpenVMS Community License Message-ID: <CACwAiQnFqofBCeHtMGTTmFv28Syu+Wa2-X5f5D8yFFL7VG3qGg at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 8:06 AM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk < cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote: IANAL, but I'm married to one... just pointing out that "clear language" does not mean the same thing to lawyers as it does to us engineers. "software owned by Digital Equipment Corporation" is pretty vague as far as lawyer-speak goes. The license does not seem to specifically include or exclude alternative scenarios. Anyone, especially a non-lawyer who was not involved with the drafting of the license, and says "obviously that must mean X" is just making stuff up (it doesn't matter what X is. Notice that I'm not saying it means you can use it under this license. I don't know, and IANAL). It's like undefined behaviour in C. You can make an educated guess (given additional information you have, such as history, correspondence with Mentec about the topic etc.), and you might be right, but the only way to find out for sure is to run the compiler and look at the disassembly, i.e. force a clarification from Mentec. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 00:03:19 -0700 From: "r.stricklin" <bear at typewritten.org> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic Posts" <cctech at classiccmp.org> Subject: Tallgrass PC hardfile driver/utility software Message-ID: <11E069C4-5A01-4E1B-875E-D36D13C5E738 at typewritten.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Folks; I see (and am grateful for) the disk images for the Tallgrass PC Hardfile/Tape unit (TG 3000/3100 series, such as my TG-3020) that have been archived on minuszerodegrees.com. This represents version 4.xx of the utilties, for use with PC-DOS 2.x. I was hoping to use this device on a 5150 PC with PC-DOS 1.1 and CP/M-86. This requires an older version (3.xx) of the DOS software, and one for CP/M-86 1.00 (also Tallgrass software version 3.xx? but a separate disk, I should imagine). If anybody happens to have a copy of either of these and don't mind sharing it, I'd love to hear from you. Thanks! ok bear. -- until further notice ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 14:55:50 +0200 From: Mattis Lind <mattislind at gmail.com> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: SUN VME - seller in Sweden. Message-ID: <CABr82SJF-i8VNp1e_+CejOWt2H5qYkOpp8z=y41vZMv1cW7m0w at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" A company has a few VME SUN 3/xxx CPU Cards and a SMD card for sale in case anyone is interested: https://ggsp.se/69-oevriga Approximately 100 USD each. They have also been listed on Swedish auction site Tradera for some time without selling so perhaps it is possible to negotiate? /Mattis ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 11:47:50 -0400 From: Chris Zach <cz at alembic.crystel.com> To: cctalk at classiccmp.org Subject: Re: SUN VME - Have em in US.... Message-ID: <3b876af1-7662-93c1-ad8e-bf8837fc682d at alembic.crystel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed I have about 15 boards that look like they came from Sun 3/xxx series systems. Mostly SCSI controller boards things that might be clocks, and memory boards. About 3 Sun 3/xxx CPUs as well (later ones, 68020) Anyone need them? Let me know, pickup from MD preferred. CZ On 8/1/2020 8:55 AM, Mattis Lind via cctalk wrote: End of cctalk Digest, Vol 71, Issue 1 *************************************