3 Aug
2002
3 Aug
'02
4:15 a.m.
Interestingly, my reply to this message was rejected by the original sender
and consigned to the monkeys.com blackhole list. A Kaspersky schill ?
Even tho you're paranoid doesn't mean that the bastards aren't out to get
you.
lawrence
I've done the Vulcan neck pinch (love the
terminology :^) ) many times to see
what was running that could be using all this memory. Ending tasks freed up
miniscule amounts of memory according to "tweak-all" and using the free memory
module in tweak-all brought me back to what should be expected, considering the
apps I was using.
lgwalker(a)mts.net
bigwalk_ca(a)yahoo.com
At 07:52 PM 8/2/02 -0500, Lawrence Walker wrote:
One of the first things I did was check for files with "wink" in their
title as
suggested in the various AV suggestions.
It seems that I did not escape Klez.
When your system is running, use the vulcan neck pinch (Control-Alt-Del). Is
there anything running with program name wink* (wink plus some random
digits.)? Are there any files found when you do "dir/a
c:\windows\system\wink*.exe" ? If not, you probably don't have Klez. Your
posting here was made using Pegasus, which does not open the Klez virus when
you open an e-mail message. You would have had to execute the attachment.
When you run the Klez cleaner, did you run it
from Safe Mode? That's
the safest way to remove it; you can also follow the manual removal
process at
<http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.klez.h@mm.html>.
I used the Mcaffee remover as per suggestions in the read me file that urged
you to do it this way, but not with the clrav.com file from Kaspersky. > Note
that Klez often comes shipped with the Elkern virus - that > disables most
antivirus software. > > >I have had a continuous memory drain > >since
stupidly
opening the first msg. in HTML and memory resources drain > >eventually freeze
my computer. I come up clean with both the Symantic and > >Kaspersky removal
tools however. One of the spoofed messages with R.E.s > >return path was from
Allison warning about klez and recommending the > >Kaspersky Klez removal tool.
I'd never heard about Kaspersky before. > >Makes > >me seriously wonder
about
these AV companies. Create a problem and then > >sell a solution. > > What
evidence do you have that an antivirus company is responsible for > creating the
Klez problem? Or any other virus? > -Rick >
It may be simply paranoia, but the fact that the spoofed file from AJP
{Allison) had a recommendation to use the Kaspersky Klez removal tool
makes me wonder why the beast would suggest it's own demise.
Somewhere I can also remember an advisory that AV programs encourage
sloppy procedures and should be done without. Not to mention the size of
some of the latest programs. 81 Megs for the latest flavor ? Give me a break.
This is either BS marketing or incredibly sloppy. wasteful programming.
" Ah, the jerks will either grab the cheap ram available or get a multi-gig new
hard drive" "I want to have a good weekend so what do I care how the dweebs
handle it".
Why I prefer older equipment. Or UYA with MS "computer advances"
Lawrence
lgwalker(a)mts.net
bigwalk_ca(a)yahoo.com