GNU and the BSD kernel

On 09/01/2012 06:12 PM, Liam Proven wrote: Well, to the very end of that sentence, I say "yes and no". The Linux crowd used a lot of GNU userland stuff from the very beginning, with little or no involvement from the GNU project, and certainly no *official* involvement. When RMS realized (well, more like "admitted to himself") that the Hurd was essentially stillborn, they pretty much laid claim to Linux. As far as I saw, they didn't go so far as revisionist historianism, but they did try VERY hard to get everyone to call it "GNU/Linux". That riding-on-coattails thing is something they should've been pretty embarrassed about, but they certainly didn't seem to be at the time. RMS was not at all bashful about discussing Linux as "GNU/Linux" at every turn, simply because they adopted the GNU userland utilities...as did several other OSs. Windows, for example, doesn't somehow become "GNU/Windows" when one installs Cygwin. ;) The GNU OS project went on and on for a long time, as the dream of several people, so I think it was very tough for them to just throw in the towel and be content with the fact that their *utilities* were what the world depended on, and they didn't build the entire OS. Of course this is all just useless "what the hell would I know, I was only THERE" type of information, but I could put it on a webpage if you like. ;) All the happenings from that era, which wasn't really very long ago at all, well less than a decade, and all of the above is pretty generally known. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA