-----Original Message-----
 From: cctalk-bounces at 
classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-
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classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of RodSmallwood
 Sent: 24 May 2010 16:21
 To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Only'
 Subject: RE: Anyone off to VCF-UK?
 Well I investigated TNMoC...
 I read through the web site and looked at the pictures. The text was a
 lot
 of waffle about how wonderful the forty good people are and please send
 us
 more money so we can talk more about ourselves. I'm sure their heating
 bills
 are very low as there's plenty of hot air already available!
 Three so called galleries...
 The first gallery held three large systems claimed to be operational.
 No sign of the operators they should have had to run them so assumed
 not
 working.
  
 
f
I know they have created a new one recently demoing the PDP11 based system
used at the UK Air Traffic Control centre until a few years ago, but they do
not seem to have published it yet.
  The second held a mixture of very common consumer type
systems from the
 70's
 & 80's. The working ones appear to have been dumped in the middle and
 the
 rest scattered around the walls on racks. At least group by
 manufacturer and
 age FGS!
 Letting people just play with restored systems is as bad as not
 restoring
 them at all. The "forty good and true people" should be demonstrating
 what
 the systems could do. (From behind a suitable barrier of course) And if
 heaven forbid! They can't, well rambling is a good hobby.
 And the last one contains a Colossus rebuild (for BPT I assume)
 Talk, waffle and hype will never make up for a lack of basic knowledge.
 Rod
 -----Original Message-----
 From: cctech-bounces at 
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 On Behalf Of Pete Turnbull
 Sent: 23 May 2010 12:04
 To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
 Subject: Re: Anyone off to VCF-UK?
 On 22/05/2010 19:36, Tony Duell wrote:
  Possibly. One of my main moans about BP is that
they routinely ignore
 enthusisats. They don't seem to believe you can be self-taught and
 clueful. We can start the field-servoid war again if you like... 
 That really isn't true of TNMoC (though as has been pointed out that's
 not the same organisation as the Bletchley Park Trust).  TNMoC is run
 almost entirely by volunteers, and I've not known them refuse any help
 offered.  Which is why I volunteered to help at VCF; that and talking
 to
 them (and Rich and Ian and others from this list) at the DEC Legacy
 event.
 --
 Pete                                           Peter Turnbull
                                                Network Manager
                                                University of York