26 Mar
2009
26 Mar
'09
8:46 a.m.
Well howdy parder Seth,
I suspect you are a pilgrim and better reach for them rafters.
Everything you claim out of print is on abe books.
The Steve Build your own Microcomputer book is not 8080, it is 8 bit but 8086 16 bit (8
bit bus).
and he does it on a solderlees socket board ??? but it works, I follwed along.
ll try to keep you on track.
I was just trying to educate the youth at computer design with my book suggestions.
Lets do it in TTL logic, or verilog, VHDL if you want to fake it, test your ideas.
(modelsim?)
Thats why I cite the bit slice and Titan book.
If you really want to design a core you need to read these.
Im making 2 computers now:
A brass marble based time machne with visual display, 60hz input (one rpm motor marble
launch), for a marble run and decision logic to perform mod 60, mod 12 math,and yea, there
is a carry reset logic to dump the acummulated marbles, totally mechanical.
Next, a TO5 can relay CPU (teledyne), because I happen to have a continuious bunch of
these from semicoductor test, I am going to make the smallest relay based CPU /ALU you
ever saw.
I will clock it with a marble ;)
Randy
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:58:36 -0700
From: sethm at loomcom.com
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Early 80's electronic/computer design books
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Keith <keithvz at verizon.net> wrote:
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If you could go back, what books would you find
on the bookshelves of these
engineers? If you graduated college or a technical school in 1980, what
were the popular reference texts used?
68000 reference books?
6800 reference books?
standard information on bus arbitration, or memory controllers, or maybe
LSI chip layout?
standard OS design practices?
I second the recommendations that have already been made. Anything by
Rodnay Zaks or Don Lancaster is a classic that was (and is) popular.
You may also want to look at:
"Programming the 6809"
Rodnay Zaks and William Labiak, Sybex, ISBN 0-89588-078-4
"From Chips to Systems"
Rodnay Zaks and Alexander Wolfe, Sybex, ISBN 0-89588-377-5
And coming soon, apparently, will be a free electronic edition of Steve
Ciarcia's "Build Your Own Z80 Computer" from 1982. Keep an eye out for
that.
All of these have been out of print forever, but except for Steve Ciarcia's
book they're pretty cheap and easy to find via used bookstores online.
-Seth