10 Jun
2006
10 Jun
'06
6:35 p.m.
Hi, gang,
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On 23-May-06 at 23:22 jim stephens wrote:
ed_sipols at goodyear.com wrote:
<snippety>
An accurate statement indeed. Family/Pinout codes could change during the lifetime of a
device, although I will say that Data I/O tried to keep them consistent (one of the few
points in their favor).
I have acquired an old DATA I/O series 22 porm
programmer. I have some
Signetics N82S141F chips that will not read at the recommended family
and
pinout codes of 10/15. In fact, the programmer
will not even allow me to
enter the 10 as the family. Help???!!!! Ed
if you have the data I/O poster or docs you are taking the data from,
you may not
have the same rom revision in your programmer. I don't know of any resource that details what
units were capable of what
to direct you to, sad to say. Data I/O was never too forthcomming about
the information even when we paid for it, and for a long time there was not
alternative.
Sort of like Microsoft is now. Anyone would use an alternative if they
could,
<snippety>
Oh, believe you me, there are PLENTY of alternatives to Data I/O! There's a company
called Advin, based out of Sunnyvale. Their stuff, in terms of functionality and
electronics, is just as good as anything Data I/O ever turned out, and it's a lot less
expensive to own.
You are correct, though, in saying that DIO is hardly forthcoming about how to deal with
the inner secrets of their programmers. Heck, they stopped selling service manuals in
2005. Don't even get me started on their absurd prices for spare parts ($82 for a
strip of plastic?!)
assuming that they are not tied to Microsoft for
reasons not relevent to
this list. I know a lot of people in the late 70's and 80's that would have
used another programmer, but Data I/O had insides at the manufacturers that
other prom programmer makers could not equal.
Advin has similar contacts. That's one of the reasons their stuff works so well.
In any case... I did a device search, and programming of the 82S141's is supported
on the Unisite. If you end up not being able to program the beasties, send 'em my way
and I'll be happy to do them for you at no cost other than return postage.
Happy tweaking.
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