From: Fred Cisin
Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 1:10 PM
On Fri, 7 May 2010, Dan Gahlinger wrote:
> Actually, Fortran came from Valtrep
WOW!
Are you saying that Apple contracted with Valtrep for their Lisa FORTRAN?
Or are you saying that the earliest versions of
FORTRAN were based on
Valtrep? If so, you should be aware that FORTRAN was in heavy active use
in the 1960s, rather long before your 1980s experiences with Valtrep.
NO. Valtrep may have made some nice improvements, but they were never
part of the original creation of FORTRAN.
I certainly understood Dan to be saying the former.
> I used to code on some old Sentry-70 systems in
Valtrep back in the 80s
> yes, this was after fortran was already quite established.
Yes, RATHER.
FORTRAN was well on to its DECLINE in usage by then.
That would come as a serious surprise to my friend Ivor Philips, who
worked on the Fortran 90 and Fortran 95 standards committees, as well
as writing the book (ok, one of 3 co-authors) on Fortran 90, and being
interested in F.
As well as the Boeing engineers he supported as one of the theoretical
mathematicians at that company...
(I won't mention the shocked look I got from engineers here when I showed
them your statement.)
Rich Alderson
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