6 Apr
2013
6 Apr
'13
7:17 p.m.
On 04/06/2013 03:08 PM, David Riley wrote:
Do you mean *public* remote access? Since most of the "z" systems out
there are doing stuff like running the world's financial system, I don't
think you'll see much of that.
Are there any public-access IBM systems (360, 370, or
even successors like z) that are friendly to hobbyists in a
similar vein to LCM's PDP-10s and 11/780-5? I suspect
it wouldn't make a lot of sense since a lot of them are batch
systems with little interactivity, but I'd welcome the
chance to play with a system.
Actually they're nearly all interactive. Most of the "heavy lifting"
(processing bank transactions) all happens in batch, as it should, but TSO
sessions are how development, monitoring, data entry, etc gets done.
It is too bad
that the ultra-conservative mainframe types will not
loosen their ties enough to get blood to their brains and listen to
the Unix people, and that the cocky Unix people will not shut up about
how great Unix is and listen to what mainframe people have to offer.
Oil and water.
It doesn't help much either that there are no --- absolutely zero,
null, nothing, nada --- remote access "z" systems. I guess there's always
Hercules, and I hear there are pre-built images for that.
There are. I run several instances of that, and I had once thought of
setting up a system for people to use, but it's so easy to run that I didn't
see much point.
-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA