----- Original Message -----
From: "Ethan Dicks" <erd_6502(a)yahoo.com>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 11:01 AM
Subject: C-64 vs the world (vintage flamebait) (was Re: Micro$oft Biz'droid
Lusers)
 --- Bryan Pope <bpope(a)wordstock.com> wrote:
  I don't understand how you can call the
Commodore 64 a "video toy". 
 I certainly don't.  For several years, it was the source of my paycheck.
  My C64 was used for games, but it was also used
to do spreadsheets and
 word processing. 
 I didn't do
  Now compare the cost of the 64 to a PC/AT at the
time... 
 More like the original PC - both came out about the same time - 1982.
 The C-64 was $595 (no disk), the original PC was $2880, 64KB of RAM
 and, also, no disk. 
My partner and I sold "grey market" PC/XT's in that time-frame for $1450.
We
provided our own drive/controller, but got the 8-slot motherboard in the
standard IBM box from VAR's who had to buy more than they could use.  I didn't
like the retail business, BTW.
  The PC-AT came out several years later with a
 standard configuration price (including hard disk) of $5K.
 
August of '81, IIRC.  I got my technical reference in March of '82.
 ISTR it took several years until the PC (and descendents) beat the C-64 in
 total sales in dollars and years after that until it passed in total
 units sold (the C-64 had a run of about 17 million, IIRC).
 
   And I believe
that the C64 graphics kicked the PC/AT's ass... ;) 
 Up until EGA, that was true.
 But it wasn't the graphics that did it - 80 column text was important
 to the PC, as was compatbility between home and work.
 
 Compatibility?  Could the PC easily read Commodore 64 diskettes?
Dick