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Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 6:14 PM
Subject: cctalk Digest, Vol 110, Issue 24
Message: 29
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 22:14:27 +0000 (UTC)
From: Alexey Toptygin <alexeyt at freeshell.org>
Lots of folks
like you also believe that there are REASONS why people
have
the opinions they do about Jews, Mexicans, Muslims, people with black
skins
or blond hair, etc. etc...
Precious irony... ;-)
That was totally uncalled for. Dave was describing a sterotype about a
group OF WHICH HE IS A MEMBER, you are comparing him to racists who blame
all the worlds problems on a group of OUTSIDERS. This is completely
different. I think you need to apologise.
Alexey
----- Reply:
As a matter of fact I see a fair bit of that on this list as well, by the
same group of regulars: stereotypical judgement and blaming of OUTSIDERS,
i.e. ignorant 'lusers' who don't know or care how their computers work, the
intricacies of TCP/IP or their operating system, who top post, use M$
software, etc. etc., and are perhaps busy running businesses, performing
brain operations, whatever, instead...
And Dave is of course implying that he's NOT a member of the group he's
disparaging; after all, HE knows that they speak Portuguese in Brazil!
As a matter of fact he is in fact echoing and defending the stereotypical
view of "people in other countries," i.e. OUTSIDERS... (and thus perhaps
even offending some of "them" ;-)
So, it's OK to insult and offend members of a certain group with this sort
of stereotypical judgement as long as you yourself are a member of that
group (albeit presumably one of the exceptions who doesn't fit the
stereotype...)?
As long as I'm an African-American myself it's OK for me to say "yeah, we
really are inferior somehow, and there's a REASON why folks believe that
about us"?
In that case I do apologize; I naively thought that derogatory stereotypes
were sort of inappropriate regardless of the source.
m
BTW, I have a Brazilian girlfriend, so I not only know that one speaks
Portuguese there but I'm also intimately acquainted with the Brazilian wax
look...