12 Feb
2014
12 Feb
'14
12:26 a.m.
On 2/12/2014 12:17 AM, tom wrote:
On 02/12/2014 12:28 AM, Derrick wrote:
well i ran 98se is what it was and the optiplex gx50 decided it
wouldnt
boot past the avg boot time scanner all it does is after it does the
boot time scan it goes to a black screen and sits there it wont boot to
anything. i also have bad luck finding good 98 or vintage computers
On 2/11/2014 9:45 PM, Jim Stephens wrote:
I run 98SE on ASUS mobo w/AMD Athlon. That's even better performance
than a P4. 98SE runs very well on it. I run Autocad, Photoshop and
Illustrator and other Adobe stuff on it. No problems. Get 98SE if you
can instead of 98. Works much better. As mentioned earlier I can run
old hardware such as SCSI large format scanner, and large format
printers on it. I have a vmware image. I'll see if i can
find an installer ISO
The comment about being off topic is not true. I don't like Fords,
but let people collect them. Also if you need to get a Ford going
to do something useful and the topic were relevent to a list about
old fords, it should be on topic overall to such a list
If you started delving too far into topics about things not related
to classic hardware you'd be better to take them to a windows
forum. But asking how to get classic hardware running with older
devices / hardware and specific topics to that is on target.
Reason being.
The hardware for the x86 PC progressed from an 8088 thru a 286, 386,
486, and Pentium.
The Dos and windows platforms operated in ways that were unique, in
this way.
Original 8088 in pure 8088 real mode. 286 introduced protected mode
but still had to deal with return to real mode and booted and ran as
a real mode OS going into protected mode and back. I believe
Windows 3.1 used a mode that was somewhat different than win95, but
the essential thing for dos, Win3.1 and win95 were all real mode
that ran another mode, but basically were real mode OS's.
Windows 98 booted almost directly into protected mode and created a
dos box to run such software as had required real mode.
From there on, the transition was to Windows NT and that is a whole
different can of worms.
A lot of hardware out there deals only with the various windows
platforms, and it is not acceptable to at least be considerate of
questions which relate to the topic of windows related to the older
custom hardware.
Just as an example a lot of the affordable high performance scanners
that have created Bitsavers require older windows and then still
barely run, and getting help to support such should not be banned.
Jim
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i think ur so right jim, with old computers some people still want to
use them cause they may do things that newer computers might not do.
i know 98 can run even on a p4 machine but only limited to 512mb of
ram. 98 had the issue with any amount of ram over 512mb. the computer
i tried to run 98 on was an optiplex gx50 with 512mb of ram max and a
1.10ghz celeron. the optiplex gx50 has a windows 98se serial on it
but also has a designed for windows xp but running xp on the computer
it runs super slow. idk what to really do with the old optiplex gx50
other then to try to run 98 but yea. some piece of software i put on
it must have made 98 not able to boot. idk for sure what i am going
to do with that machine. i do want something that will run 98 like be
designed to run 98 but yea its hard to find 98 machines these days.