30 Dec
2005
30 Dec
'05
11:08 a.m.
Am donderdag, 29.12.05, um 13:50 Uhr (Europe/Zurich) schrieb Tony Duell:
Me, and the others probably also, are basically only pointing out that
there is a place for modern, non-hobbyist friendly technology too.
I don;t dispute that. I do dispute that I have to use it.
Anyther thread has been pointing out that typewriters still have uses. I
agree. As do pens and pieces of paper. And as, of course, do woed
processors. I use all 3 for different jobs. Well, maybe I am the only
person here to still use a pen and paper notebook, but I've yet to find a
portable computer that's as useful. Yes, I do use a palmtop comptuer (OK,
an ancient one I just about understnad -- an HP95LX), but the pen and
paper still has uses too...
When i have a problem I look at various possible solutions, and take into
account the fact that I will have to maintain the equipment, etc. Is it
going to be better to get some new device (with all the attendant support
provlems, learning-to-use-it problems, etc), it is better to modify
something I have, to make something, or to go on with what I already
have. So far, I've not ever found a problem that's needed a
hacker-unfriendly computer to solve it.
This list
will not convince Tony otherwise, I also tried ...
What bothers me is whu you want to convince me otherwise. There will never be a hacker-friendly mobile phone for
instance.
Component level repair on those is impossible, even though I have the
Why? OK, I'd not want to work on the RF side (too many risks of sending
out spurious signals), but what is the prroblem, say, with replacing
compoentns in the control circuit. They look like normal SMDs.
full schematics on mine.... Does that mean all mobile
phones are bad
and not worth having ?
I was given one, I use it very occasionally. And to be honest, I could
easily live without it (and I could certianly live without those idiots
on public transport who talk about nothing-of-significance for hours on end).
In the same line of thought, there is a place for a
non-hacker friendly
modern PC, I do use mine as storage for all the PDF's releated to my
Classiccmp gear and my digital photos. Zippy response is nice to have
for these usage cases.
Hmmm.. Neither of those would be applicable to me. I much prefer manuals
on paper (I can't accomodate a reasonable display _and the device being
repaired_ on my bench at the same time, I can't take a PC to bed and read
manuals there (yes, I do read service manuals as bedtime reading).
And I've said many times that I will consider a digital camera when it
gives better results than my current camera. Please don't tell me how
your camera is better than the Point-and-Shoot 35mm it replaced. I am not
talking about that sort of camera. I am talking about a 5*4" sheet film
camers.
And yes, I can see the point of digital cameras, this does not mean I
want one.
It is a case of using the right tools for the job :
old machines when
you want to hack ,modern machine for productive use.
If you are claiming you can't do productive work with classic computers,
then I cannot agree with you. In fact I suspect I've done more prodctive
work with my old machines than most people have with their
latest-and-greatest PCs.
-tony